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Old 08-30-2003, 10:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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3s-ge vs. 3s-gte swap ????

Which is the better swap. I am thinking about doing a swap in a couple of years. I am starting to do my research and have concluded I would like the 3s-ge or teh 3s-gte done. Now how much would it be to get either of these done and in the end which engine can handle about 250 - 350 horses in teh long run as I would like some kick under the hood to show up with some grunt and get people surprised after seeing what it can do.

All info is appreciated and if there is something else that can be done aswell then put it out here for shure.

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Get yourself a JDM 3S-GTE. It should come with the computer and turbo for around $1000-$1300. Since it's a turbo engine already, it has all the goodies you'll need. It has oil squirters, oil cooler, all the plumbing for the turbo, boost sensors, etc. all of which you would have to seek out separately on the 3S-GE. You'll save money in the end. Go to any MR2 board or Alltrac board and you can find out all the tricks to making it scream. I'll be selling a US 1st gen soon, but it won't have the turbo and needs rebuilding. Might be worth it if you want to put in stronger internals or have a fresh rebuild.
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your problem will be with motor mounts and tranny. im not sure about the motor mounts on a corolla, they could work, or not. the tranny that you need to use with the 3sgte is an E153 tranny from a 1992-94 camry v6 or 1997-01 camry v6 or solara 98-02

ask on the corolla forum and see if they know over there...
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That swap makes no sense.
You have either a 4A-FE or a 7A-FE engine in your car stock. This is an A-series engine. Trying to swap in an S-series engine will not be plug and play by any means. You would probably need custom motor mounts. Go with the other idea from your site. A 4A-GZE would actually be do-able, there is even a guy on this site who helped install a 4A-GZE in his brother's Gen7 Rolla (AE102, same as your car). Here is a link: Civic Killer Project Since they are both A-series it will be a lot "easier".
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how much hp can the 4a-gze handle and how much hp can it be able to have ??
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I don't know around 250HP I suppose. If your looking for much more than that your barking up the wrong tree with your Corolla.
You can just save up and get a newer car with more power
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I don't know around 250HP I suppose. If your looking for much more than that your barking up the wrong tree with your Corolla.
You can just save up and get a newer car with more power
250 is good enough for me I am trying to get a great show car with some grunt to it on the track just to have a lil fun. I guess i can bulletproof the thing and then upgrade internals and shit to make it produce more hp

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OHHHH its an A series engine...

in that case, i suggest you do a head swap with the 4agze...

thats a supercharged engine with room for improvement. doing the head swap isnt that difficult either... you can even do it with the engine still in the car. try to find out info on that i know for sure its been done, and mostly in 6th gen celicas with 7afe engines... you can upgrade the supercharger, add intercooler/aftercooler(SC term), replace some internals, definitely metal head gasket. and they make these parts and most are stocks at performance webpages.

info on the head swap...
http://www.toyotacelicaonline.com/celica1/7ahybrid.htm

parts and upgrades for the 4agze...
http://www.optionsauto.com
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here in australia there is a lot of development on the 4age engine and its derivitives. have a look at www.toymods.org.au to start
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I don't know around 250HP I suppose. If your looking for much more than that your barking up the wrong tree with your Corolla.
You can just save up and get a newer car with more power
actually try somewhere in the range of 300 to 400 range and yes thats to the wheels. A 4a-gze with the proper internals , SC14, cusco by-pass valve cover upgrade... so you can regulate the supercharger's boost at 20 to 24psi, twin charged ( i.e. add a massive Turbo ), and a stand alone thats tunned right and has a nos on and off control switch in its program.So instead of use it to control you nos use it to control the magnetic clutch of the supercharger. So you can turn the supercharger off at a certain rpm when you reach the turbos full efficiency range. The only setup that was even close to this one was in a AW11 out here in California. Ran 11's or 10's in Palmdale and in my opinoin it was almost complete but short of being done right.
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