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Old 09-08-2003, 05:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Turbochargers

I just finished reading about how TurboChargers work and I think it's really great and informative, so I hope you learn from this as much as I did..

Turbochargers are a type of forced induction system. They compress the air flowing into the engine. The advantage of compressing the air is that it lets the engine squeeze more air into a cylinder, and more air means that more fuel can be added. Therefore, you get more power from each explosion in each cylinder. A turbocharged engine produces more power overall than the same engine without the charging. This can significantly improve the power-to-weight ratio for the engine.

In order to achieve this boost, the turbocharger uses the exhaust flow from the engine to spin a turbine, which in turn spins an air pump. The turbine in the turbocharger spins at speeds of up to 150,000 rotations per minute (RPM) -- that's about 30 times faster than most car engines can go. And since it is hooked up to the exhaust, the temperatures in the turbine are also very high.

Turbochargers allow an engine to burn more fuel and air by packing more into the existing cylinders. The typical boost provided by a turbocharger is 6 to 8 pounds per square inch (psi). Since normal atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi at sea level, you can see that you are getting about 50 percent more air into the engine. Therefore, you would expect to get 50 percent more power. It's not perfectly efficient, so you might get a 30- to 40-percent improvement instead.

One cause of the inefficiency comes from the fact that the power to spin the turbine is not free. Having a turbine in the exhaust flow increases the restriction in the exhaust. This means that on the exhaust stroke, the engine has to push against a higher back-pressure. This subtracts a little bit of power from the cylinders that are firing at the same time.

The turbocharger also helps at high altitudes, where the air is less dense. Normal engines will experience reduced power at high altitudes because for each stroke of the piston, the engine will get a smaller mass of air. A turbocharged engine may also have reduced power, but the reduction will be less dramatic because the thinner air is easier for the turbocharger to pump.

Older cars with carburetors automatically increase the fuel rate to match the increased airflow going into the cylinders. Modern cars with fuel injection will also do this to a point. The fuel-injection system relies on oxygen sensors in the exhaust to determine if the air-to-fuel ratio is correct, so these systems will automatically increase the fuel flow if a turbo is added.

If a turbocharger with too much boost is added to a fuel-injected car, the system may not provide enough fuel -- either the software programmed into the controller will not allow it, or the pump and injectors are not capable of supplying it. In this case, other modifications will have to be made to get the maximum benefit from the turbocharger.

The turbocharger is bolted to the exhaust manifold of the engine. The exhaust from the cylinders spins the turbine, which works like a gas turbine engine. The turbine is connected by a shaft to the compressor, which is located between the air filter and the intake manifold. The compressor pressurizes the air going into the pistons.



The exhaust from the cylinders passes through the turbine blades, causing the turbine to spin. The more exhaust that goes through the blades, the faster they spin.


The turbocharger is bolted to the exhaust manifold of the engine. The exhaust from the cylinders spins the turbine, which works like a gas turbine engine. The turbine is connected by a shaft to the compressor, which is located between the air filter and the intake manifold. The compressor pressurizes the air going into the pistons.

The exhaust from the cylinders passes through the turbine blades, causing the turbine to spin. The more exhaust that goes through the blades, the faster they spin.



On the other end of the shaft that the turbine is attached to, the compressor pumps air into the cylinders. The compressor is a type of centrifugal pump -- it draws air in at the center of its blades and flings it outward as it spins.

In order to handle speeds of up to 150,000 rpm, the turbine shaft has to be supported very carefully. Most bearings would explode at speeds like this, so most turbochargers use a fluid bearing. This type of bearing supports the shaft on a thin layer of oil that is constantly pumped around the shaft. This serves two purposes: It cools the shaft and some of the other turbocharger parts, and it allows the shaft to spin without much friction.


Optional Turbo Features

The Wastegate

Most automotive turbochargers have a wastegate, which allows the use of a smaller turbocharger to reduce lag while preventing it from spinning too quickly at high engine speeds. The wastegate is a valve that allows the exhaust to bypass the turbine blades. The wastegate senses the boost pressure. If the pressure gets too high, it could be an indicator that the turbine is spinning too quickly, so the wastegate bypasses some of the exhaust around the turbine blades, allowing the blades to slow down.

Ball Bearings

Some turbochargers use ball bearings instead of fluid bearings to support the turbine shaft. But these are not your regular ball bearings -- they are super-precise bearings made of advanced materials to handle the speeds and temperatures of the turbocharger. They allow the turbine shaft to spin with less friction than the fluid bearings used in most turbochargers. They also allow a slightly smaller, lighter shaft to be used. This helps the turbocharger accelerate more quickly, further reducing turbo lag.

Ceramic Turbine Blades

Ceramic turbine blades are lighter than the steel blades used in most turbochargers. Again, this allows the turbine to spin up to speed faster, which reduces turbo lag.

Sequential Turbochargers

Some engines use two turbochargers of different sizes. The smaller one spins up to speed very quickly, reducing lag, while the bigger one takes over at higher engine speeds to provide more boost.

Intercoolers

An intercooler or charge air cooler is an additional component that looks something like a radiator, except air passes through the inside as well as the outside of the intercooler. The intake air passes through sealed passageways inside the cooler, while cooler air from outside is blown across fins by the engine cooling fan.

The intercooler further increases the power of the engine by cooling the pressurized air coming out of the compressor before it goes into the engine. This means that if the turbocharger is operating at a boost of 7 psi, the intercooled system will put in 7 psi of cooler air, which is denser and contains more air molecules than warmer air.

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Old 09-08-2003, 12:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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nice work Xenon

i learned this in school, and this is more accurate than a one day explanation on turbo at school

i say make this thing sticky and lock it
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Old 09-08-2003, 03:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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either make it a sticky, or people can go check out www.howstuffworks.com ...
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Old 09-11-2003, 08:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It does, although it's gotten a bit harder to work with than before.. It used to be very user friendly with search options to find the topic you're looking for...
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Xenon, now your know, so get to work and boost the bad boy SR5!! I thought for sure by now you would have been running da highpsi
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thanks...need all the information....because I am going turbo by summer or fall next year
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Old 09-13-2003, 08:54 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Xenon, now your know, so get to work and boost the bad boy SR5!! I thought for sure by now you would have been running da highpsi
Hey what's up, long time no see.. Where have you been?

I heard that unfortunetly don't have the Turbo anymore.

I have been doing my research and work for the options of Turbo or S/C engine. Haven't had the serious time to do the work and go shopping around.

From my final exams to my graduation and then my brother's engagement, and now I'm in the Middle East doing some work. So as you can see I haven't had the chance to do anything although the sound of the BOV is still in my ear every day

But I'm trying to be realistic and figure out of the AE92 is worth doing more work on or is it just time to move on...
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Hey what's up, long time no see.. Where have you been?

I heard that unfortunetly don't have the Turbo anymore.

I have been doing my research and work for the options of Turbo or S/C engine. Haven't had the serious time to do the work and go shopping around.

From my final exams to my graduation and then my brother's engagement, and now I'm in the Middle East doing some work. So as you can see I haven't had the chance to do anything although the sound of the BOV is still in my ear every day

But I'm trying to be realistic and figure out of the AE92 is worth doing more work on or is it just time to move on...
Ya, it's been awhile since I have been on here. Sold the turbo kit off the corolla to a guy in SC, he loves it. Then traded in teh Rolla for an 1.6EL, it's now boosted and will have built engine next year. The corolla is still a legend in my mind though. Hope your travels are going well, take care.

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Old 09-18-2003, 12:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
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excellent ... now time to hit standard auto wreckers on $45 days and get me a turbo then modify the shit out of it to fit my rolla
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Old 09-18-2003, 01:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
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It wouldn't be a bad idea to find a Mazda 626 and take the Turbo off of it.. I know that's what 4AFTE used for a Turbo..

And then we can either find something that would fit on an AE92 or custom make an intercooler..
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hey guys, next year I want to go turbo, so could you guys list some major turbo parts that I will need, and also I doubt my internals could handle very much boosting, so if you guys went turbo, what internals did you upgrade so you dont blow them out?
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Old 01-02-2004, 05:52 AM   #13 (permalink)
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From what I know 4AFTE didn't upgrade anything on his stock 1.6 L 4AFE engine when he installed the Turbo
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Old 01-04-2004, 08:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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If you guys need custom exhaust manifolds for the 4age or other toyota motors I got them...



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