before i start, sorry if someone already posted this topic, i searched for "imports vs. domestics" and nothing came up, and also searched for other phrases close to that...so im guessing this is the first on (but im probably wrong haha)
anyways, domestic owners claim there 67 mustang, z06 vette's and other horrid domestics can own any imports. i dont like domestics, just because your better off with an import...literally....
im not trying to go back to the 60's and buy som POS with a kajillion miles, no luxury features, probably not even any power locks or windows (sorry if im wrong), and just the bare essentials. and plus with all the years gone by, alot of the horsepower probably deterioted.
as oppposed to imports, you buy yourself a nice wrx, supra, evo, skyline, or a porsche (if you have the money)...and can do alot more to it to make it a alooooot faster
oh, i guess this decussion can be broken down to 2 parts....american vintage/exotics vs import vintage/exotics....and the typical domestic vs. imports (jap nd euro)
Some people preffer old school domestics and some people preffer newer imports... Some people preffer old school imports to newer ones too... I love old school feeling of driving my 1972 Celica, its carb'ed, has no power windows, no a/c , and it doesnt even have a decent stereo... But its the passion and the feeling of driving history... I mean old school Toyotas and some old school Domestics are just like beautifull art work of the past. If you've never driven a old school import or domestic and know how it feels to drive one ... Dont knock the old school
I love both. My next car will either be a 97/98 240sx, or a 98-02 trans am/firehawk. Its all preference, but as far as bang for the buck goes, you can get a used late model celica for the same price as a same-year trans am. But on the other hand, insurance on a t/a is insane. It's all about priorities and money.
What if you're a redneck homo and your brother IS your wife?
I dunno, I like the angular/curvy styling of asian cars cause it's sexy-futuristic, the teutonic styling of german cars cause it's like art nuveau, and old american muscle cars or the newer sports cars cause they just give the sense of go-fast.
I dunno... that kind of comparison smacks of associating your identity with import or domestic; seems sort of arbitrary and a little stupid. Never understood that. You really shouldn't get your identity from the make of your car.
yeh....i will say that imports are much better cus im anti-american.....but.....people say that im on the band-wagon and shit like that....but....its honestly imports
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Originally posted by s6arface i was actaully talking about racing one, not for a typical driving car
Hehe... Here's something I can sink my teeth into: another racing topic.
If you're comparing just with a racer's eye, and completely ignore all the BS usually associated with the whole import vs domestic thing... Here's how I think it goes:
The first thing you need to know, in racing terms anyway: Everything is a compromise! If you try to improve one thing, something else suffers, there is no way around that. Whether you're looking at American cars, or Euro cars, or Jap cars, you can clearly see that they all take very different approaches in terms of what is best way to build a racing car.
Old American cars (and even some new ones as well), take a relatively simple approach to going fast. Basically, they just make everything BIGGER, and that makes the cars faster. They like to acheive speed by Brute Force. Big cars, big engines, big wheels, etc. This is fine, perfectly acceptable, and proven to work well on the track. The big engines make for great acceleration at the start, and out of the corners. The big cars are stable and easy to drive. Suspension is typically very basic on these cars, which combined with the weight of the cars, would usually mean they have poor handling. But this is not always true, they make these cars corner the same way they make them accelerate, by brute force. They fit very wide, big diameter tires on there, so these cars just keep sticking to the road almost no matter what.
If you look at the Japanese phylosophy, it's exactly the opposite. Efficiency is the name of the game. Everything is smaller, lighter, more high-tech. They try to extract as much power as possible from very small engines, whether it be by the use of a turbocharger, or some highly complex device such as V-Tec, or VVTL-i, or T-VIS, or 5-valve technology. Suspension designs are more complex as well, with front and rear double wishbone independant designs. These cars so small, and light, and very well balanced, with relatively low horsepower, which all adds up to make them very easy to drive as well, but are much faster in the corners than in the straightaways.
Just as an example, here's a case that demonstrates these two extremes perfectly: While I was in Australia, I visited Eastern Creek Raceway to watch the V8 supercars. One of the pre-races was for classic cars, there was mostly old V8 Torana's, Falcon's, Commodore's, and many others I'd never heard of. There was also a whole bunch of 1960's Mini Coopers. Eastern Creek is a great racetrack, it's got one of the longest main straightaway's that I've ever seen, but the rest of the track is nice and twisty and fun. So it's got something for everybody. Throughout most of the track, those Mini's would outrun the far more powerful V8's. I saw them pass at least 5 or 6 other cars in one lap. But then when they hit that big straight at the end, those 5 or 6 cars that just got passed by Mini's would unleash their full power, and the Mini's looked like they were standing still in comparison, so of course they'd get passed easily in the straight, and then it would all start over again. That makes for a great race to watch actually...
Anyway, next we get to European cars. Now these guys are easily the smartest out of them all. These cars and engines are generally smaller than their American counterparts, but they've got all the same new fancy technology found in the Japanese cars. If were to talk about Porsche's or Ferrari's or Lambo's or Zonda's or whatever, the one true flaw that most of these cars have is that they are TOO fast. Most of these cars, with RR, and MR designs, have more weight over the rear wheels than the front. Which (considering the awesome amount of power they have) can make them dangerous, and difficult to control sometimes.
Wow, as usual this has become really long-winded.
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this topic actaully arised during lunch at school...me and some of my friends were talking and the topic of imports nd domestics arised. they all like domestics, mostly the classics...they mostly argued the HP number vs the HP number of an import...like "485 from a mustang fastback" vs. your rsx "210"....and when i would bring out the real cars like the skyline and supras...they would argue there to expensive....
but what most people dont realize the only reason there so expensive is cause of all the damn customs, taxes, emissions, and all the other pointless bullshit u have to pay for.
What about the Corvette Z06.
It weighs less than your Camry and has 400 HP. It also has great aerodynamics, independent suspension, and big tires. And it cost about 50 grand.
What abot the new Ford GT40. It Snacks on Ferraris and Saleen S7s for breakfast on a road course.
It's pretty ignorant to group something as extensive as cars into to huge groups and say, "this group over here sucks, and this one over here is good." Obviously that doesn't cover all the bases. Get out there and drive some cars before you make a judgment about them.
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