3s-ge head on 5s-fe block - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

lownslowcam · 03-27-2004, 07:07 PM

I read an old thread were you talked about this, but it didn't go into it very much. So, i was just wondering what it would take to do that to, put a 3s-ge head on a 5s-fe block?

Wraith · 03-29-2004, 12:25 AM

heard my name being posted...lol

lowslowcam:
what can I help you with

lownslowcam · 03-29-2004, 05:11 PM

i'm not gonna make any lies and say that i'm going to do this but i like to have info and maybe in the future i might try. I was just wondering what it would take and any info from you i would hold as gold! cause your the man!!

Wraith · 03-30-2004, 02:02 AM

first off...
what year is your 5s-fe ???
second ...
do you want 2.2Liter or 2.1Liter ????

lownslowcam · 03-30-2004, 10:33 AM

i have a 94 and it's a 2.2L
i noticed that i was very general with my question sorry bout that.

Wraith · 03-30-2004, 11:59 AM

Dammm bro... your shit out of luck... The '94 block doesnt bolt right up with the 3s-g head. Toyota did some changes in 1994 to the 5s-fe block specifically to the water and oil passages on the blcok itself.
To do the head swap it would require you to port the passages out ... Basically taking a 3s-g head gasket and laying it on the 5s-fe and see whats the difference...

For example:

Top= 3s-gte Bottom= 5s-fe

top= 5s-fe bottom= 3s-gte

Wraith · 03-30-2004, 12:08 PM

The easiest way would be to purchase a 1990 to 1993 block. This is more straight forward. This is what I did ... I used a 1992 5S-FE Camry block ... Its a direct bolt on affair from there... I just suggest getting a 9 bolt 3s-gte head over the 7bolt due to the nature of the 7bolts to crack turbo manifolds. And if you can get your hands on a 3rd Gen head...

andyman61 · 03-30-2004, 01:49 PM

is there a difference between the heads on the 3s-ge and 3s-gte? if i run across one in the junkyard i might see what i can do, but this is mostly just a hypothetical question.

92 5s-fe btw.

Bishop13 · 03-30-2004, 02:39 PM

What exactly would be the performance advantages of bolting on a 3S-GE/3S-GTE head onto a 5S?

Wraith · 03-31-2004, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andyman61
is there a difference between the heads on the 3s-ge and 3s-gte? if i run across one in the junkyard i might see what i can do, but this is mostly just a hypothetical question.

92 5s-fe btw.

theres a ton of difference especially when going from 3s-ge and 3s-gte ... The ports are bigger on the 3s-ge than the 3s-gte... And Then you have different variations and years of different heads... So theres a ton... This isnt a bolt on affair you still need to run ignition system from a 3s-g... So this requires some soldiering and custom harness stuff... It isnt that easy

Wraith · 03-31-2004, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bishop13
What exactly would be the performance advantages of bolting on a 3S-GE/3S-GTE head onto a 5S?

Um if you dont know the difference between a G-heads and a F-head then. Theres no use of me explaining. You need to do a thread search on ToyotaNation to find out...

Wraith · 03-31-2004, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wraith
This is more straight forward. This is what I did ... I used a 1992 5S-FE Camry block ... Its a direct bolt on affair from there...

what I meant by this statement is that its basically a bolt on affair , when it comes to bolting on the head to the block. You still have to contend with the wiring, ignition differences, map sensor, and ecu ...

KILLACAMNY · 04-29-2004, 02:42 PM

Anyone know of a shop capable of doing such a swap from a 92 5sfe to a 3sge?? NYC area??

Wraith · 05-16-2004, 06:00 PM

please reffer to :
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t37904.html

this also works as a 5s-ge or 5s-gte...