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CrawlingEye · 04-02-2004, 05:50 PM

http://www.optauto.com/webstore/prod...=yes&dept=3682

Seems like it would/could compliment hypergrounds quite well. What'd you guys think?

It says that it'll increase HP/Torque. I'd imagine if it does, the gains are minimal, but I'm curious of if any of you have tried it or known anyone who have tried it.

I just saw it in an import tuner magazine in wegmens last night. I bought the magazine because it had a list of "25 universal mods" which seemed like they might be worth looking into. This looked like the most credible out of the lot, aside from the obvious like a catback and hypergrounds.

Kensuke · 04-02-2004, 06:09 PM

I saw it in the same magazine. Though that article actually sucks because they only list the products and they don't go into detail about them.

Sun Automotive is a respectable company based in Japan. Their US Division has a website I think. Do a search. I would think that it might help somewhat. People have said that their hypergrounds DO help throttle response.

Anyway, there's two different models of that kit. One that helps low end torque, and another that helps high end HP.

- John

CrawlingEye · 04-02-2004, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Kensuke
I saw it in the same magazine. Though that article actually sucks because they only list the products and they don't go into detail about them.

Sun Automotive is a respectable company based in Japan. Their US Division has a website I think. Do a search. I would think that it might help somewhat. People have said that their hypergrounds DO help throttle response.

Anyway, there's two different models of that kit. One that helps low end torque, and another that helps high end HP.

- John

The one I linked helps both, or supposedly does.
I found the site (there was a link provided in the article) and read through it, but it doesn't tell me what real world experience would.

I did a search which turned up nothing, so I'm not sure if this is an untried product on Camry's or what?

Thanks for the input though.

almc2242 · 05-10-2004, 07:47 PM

I have installed the HSK Hyper Ground Kit. It works. Of course the gain is not mind bogling, but it does wakes up the engine a little more. Helping on low and mid torque.

soulibrium · 05-11-2004, 11:02 AM

if you have a new car, it does not really help too much but brighten up your lights and maybe give a better engine throttle response. but in old cars it makes a HUGE diff ! if you own a ae86 or even a ae92 it would definatly WAKE UP your car ! huge response gains in throttle. more stable voltage in all ur electrical components. a steadier idle.! thats if your running a grounding system. the voltage system would really only benifit if your a basshead. if your running a huge system in the car the voltage system (IMO) would give nothing but good gains. steadys voltage and almost eliminated voltage spikes ! but minimal gains for engine performance.

finese1 · 05-11-2004, 12:16 PM

Sounds good to me. But i guess it is no replacement for a high amp alt. Or is it? It can stablize voltage then high amp alt isn't necessary. And i guess that's what an high amp alt. would do. Is there any other info on hyper grounding.

alltrac165 · 05-12-2004, 12:36 AM

"The vehicles voltage will drop when electrical components are in used and when the car is under acceleration; Hyper Voltage System stores electricity to provide constant voltage to your electrical system."

So basically it's a capacitor? Whoop-dee-do...

"TYPE MR = Multi-range rev. performance with increase of both horsepower and torque.
TYPE HR = Sport driving and high rev. performance with increase of horsepower.
TYPE LR = City driving and low to mid range rev. performance with increase of torque."

Ok, so we can deduce that since it only has two wires, one positive and one negative, and it stores electricity, it's a capacitor of some type. Now, try as I might, I can't for the life of me figure out how you can tune a cap for rpms, torque or hp.
I'm a wee bit skeptical of these product claims. I can see how a cap *might* help out a bit as I use them on stereos with good success and you can go to your local stereo store and buy a farad or two and try it out if you like. If your system suffers short term voltage sags, such as you might if you run substantial subs on your stereo, it might help. Caps don't hold a lot of power, it's just available very quickly and you can put them very close to where you need them, unlike a battery or alternator.

CrawlingEye · 05-12-2004, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by alltrac165
"The vehicles voltage will drop when electrical components are in used and when the car is under acceleration; Hyper Voltage System stores electricity to provide constant voltage to your electrical system."

So basically it's a capacitor? Whoop-dee-do...

"TYPE MR = Multi-range rev. performance with increase of both horsepower and torque.
TYPE HR = Sport driving and high rev. performance with increase of horsepower.
TYPE LR = City driving and low to mid range rev. performance with increase of torque."

Ok, so we can deduce that since it only has two wires, one positive and one negative, and it stores electricity, it's a capacitor of some type. Now, try as I might, I can't for the life of me figure out how you can tune a cap for rpms, torque or hp.
I'm a wee bit skeptical of these product claims. I can see how a cap *might* help out a bit as I use them on stereos with good success and you can go to your local stereo store and buy a farad or two and try it out if you like. If your system suffers short term voltage sags, such as you might if you run substantial subs on your stereo, it might help. Caps don't hold a lot of power, it's just available very quickly and you can put them very close to where you need them, unlike a battery or alternator.

I've deduced that it's likely more of a power conditioner, it simply smooths out voltage fluctuations.

How they claim that one provides more tq and one provides more hp? I haven't the slightest idea. My assumption is that they run on different impendences and different tolerances.

The theory behind it is that it will improve the (being generic) overall quality of electricty flowing through the car, thus keeping the ECU powered properly to make its changes in shorter times and more efficiently. I believe the argument goes back to the ground wiring theory, that better conductivity takes the ECU out of a sort of safe-mode and the power grains are from that.

I'm no longer considering buying one (I have other things that require money, and things ahead of this that are on the list), but I do see their place (probably good for very minimal hp gains).

alltrac165 · 05-12-2004, 11:55 AM

^"I've deduced that it's likely more of a power conditioner, it simply smooths out voltage fluctuations."

Could be, if it has some other bits in there to absorb any spikes. That may be the reason for the cooling fins.
It's an interesting idea, I suppose....

Pineapple · 05-12-2004, 01:49 PM

Its kind of a voltage regulator that keep power at 12V or even 14V. A high amp alt will help more. What the unit will do is draw more power from battery to keep power at 14.4V. Say your system is drawing 30A@14V and it cause power to drop to 13V. The unit will draw say 40A@12V from battery and step it up to 14V for the system. The thing is the unit have a max output rating maybe 60A. So if you got audio which need more then 60A it won't work. Another thing is the stock alt and battery may have trouble to supply the amp needed for the unit to step it up.
It will works great in a car without audio. You may need to bypass the unit when installing audio equipment. You still need to upgrade alt and battery to get enough power for audio.