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Old 04-11-2002, 06:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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...BRAKE FADE!!!

(Well right now I have stock lines, rotors and KVR pads.)

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Old 04-11-2002, 06:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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cool it...even the LM cars, the holes in the front air damn route air througe huge duct size tubes and into the wheelwell, cooling the brake.

It shouldn't be too difficult to do this, and it should be inexpensive and fun...your next mod! heheheh
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Uh... any ideal solutions? :roll:

It's the damn weather, my car stops nicely when the weather was colder and the rotors/pads don't heat up as quick.
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haha... I was talking to Andrew just like a minute ago about your problem.

Your car is heavy and more prone to fading. I know the Camry's are notorious for brake fade.... and what your are experiencing is nothing like what I had when I drove a Gen 2 V6 Camry ... now that was scary touch the pedal and it feels like it's not gonna stop but it does!

I dunno what kinda driving you do but.... I did notice when I took the Nismo autocrossing the brakes felt like nothing for a few days and slowly comes back. Check if the brakes are in anyway seized up... they might be touching slightly and causing them to heat up unexpectedly.

Typically I don't expereience much brake fade unless I'm in like some serious bumper to bumper traffic. If you think brake fade is bad try driving with a clutch that needed to be badly readjusted during Christmas shopping season at Yorkdale now that's somethign!
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Damn... yea after talking to Andrew I think I need to take it to Basil and look into it sometime...

It's so bad when you try to take the car to its limit (braking in this case) and it just forces you to upgrade things... :razz:

I don't stop the car hard all the time but if I want to stop I want to stop AQAP!
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I don't stop the car hard all the time but if I want to stop I want to stop AQAP!
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Get X-drilled rotors and steel brake lines.
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Uh... I would get x-drilled but it's not that good for street driving, and it decreases the braking surface of the rotor.
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Well this might sound insignificant, but when was the last time you flushed the system? Because brakefluid absorbs moisture and eventually the boilingtemp comes down and brings bake fade into play.

Recommended interval for flushing is a year.
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Yea, sounds like I need brake fluid flush. (Planning to go track this Summer so won't be bad to do it now anyway.)

Or I'm trying to give myself an excuse to do it! :grin:
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well what dickson explained to me is not brake fade, it doesn't happen after repeated braking
it just happens all the time and the feel is not as accurate. not when it is unusally hot or anything like that.

i suggested perhaps getting new rotors and having the fluid flushed.

everything should be fine but keep in mind that you are drving a pretty big/heavy car, and that you have to gague your expectations.


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im using xdrilled rotors and they are doing a good job..it brakes when needed and i stop on the dime.. city driving as u would say.. i've also taken the car to the track it performed wonderfully... i decreased my over all stopping distance... also using TRD HPZ pads ... no ss brake lines (yet) and didnt flush my brakefluid but doing it this summer cos its been forever since i've done it... i think if u are concerned about the braking surface of ur rotor its not a major concern.. in my view anyways... i've had the HPZ pads and the xdrilled rotor since 97 so far no problems with my stopping ability and my brakes are still at 85% (had to go vehicle inspection 2 weeks ago so i know)
hope this helps u out dickson...

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Try a higher temp rated brake fluid.
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Well you might think that x-drill rotor will have less surface area and will affect the braking that way, but the holes is ctually helping the gas pass through so the pads can stay ON the rotor when braking. You won't notice changes if any because stock size x-drill rotor's stopping distance is just the same, it will help greatly if you do brake many times and in high speeds. Also steel brakelines will help on track use, and doesn't give you advantage on street use. If you are concern on improving braking for street use, you already done half the job by replacing the pads, and the other half is changing the brake fuild to a dot4 and check for the color of the brake fuild it tells you when to change.
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Oh yea one more thing to improve on the braking distance change to a good set of tires, that will help greatly.
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