SS breaklines - Warning

[Phi]

Be careful with stainless steel braided brakelines.

http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Performance/brakelines.htm

[2wickedtoyz]

good looking out phi i was actually interested in getting ss line when i get the brake adapter from ericsol.


that would have sucked

[brink]

Ouch


Well, something I just heard relating to this: if you want the firmer pedal feel, instead of spending $$ on the SS, just wrap your lines with many, many zip ties. Just don't tighten them too much!

[2wickedtoyz]

hmm zip ties i'll try that on some one else's car

[cheezthis]

Interesting...but not sure how much it warrants an issue if you maintain your car constantly. My GS-R has had braided lines for years and years without any problems. It has been through many Chicago winters too.

The author has a point though, but I don't think it's enough to refute the pro's of braided lines.

[kenratboy]

Hmmmm, that is a bit scary.

I wonder if this is common - maybe the people on the Honda forums could help out!

[Flashmn]

Thats what I've been saying before. The problem with braided hoses (radiator,brakes, etc) is that you cant detect leaks, because the braids conceal it.

[Sportivo Concepts]

Some of the issues with SS like the one guy who just had them installed and got into an accident, is mainly neglect or bad install IMO.

I have had them on both my 98 and 01 Camrys and running them now on the Rally. The only problem I have had is due to my own fault when I installed them and that was back when I had the 98.

I usually checked the lines after every 2nd tire rotation and every brake job.

There is away to check the lines, but it is an added labor and time and most ppl do not want to hassle with it.

[cheezthis]

Originally posted by Flashmn
Thats what I've been saying before. The problem with braided hoses (radiator,brakes, etc) is that you cant detect leaks, because the braids conceal it.

Search honda-tech or team-integra.net for that stuff if you're bored. I can tell you that myself, and many other track guys, have no regrets about them. However, if you're only daily driving your vehicle, they're not needed.

As far as leaks, most track guys I know maintain their cars well enough to diagnose if problems when they arise.

[Flashmn]

and you're preaching to me how good they are.... dont waste your breath trying to sell them to me, I aint putting them on my car. Oh and I do race my car on track, never had any brake problems whatsoever using my stock brakelines.

[cheezthis]

Originally posted by Flashmn
and you're preaching to me how good they are.... dont waste your breath trying to sell them to me, I aint putting them on my car. Oh and I do race my car on track, never had any brake problems whatsoever using my stock brakelines.

I'm not trying to sell you anything, if you're referring to me...so calm down first. I just don't like it when myths and fears start to take over the facts.

I'm simply stating my experience and what I know...just trying to help. No need to get upset about it.

And if your stock brakelines work great, then great! Mine did for a bit, but after awhile, things started to really act up. I brake very aggressively and use such pads as cobalt friction spec-B or spec-VR's, and when you generate that kind of stopping power, you generate a lot of heat too. You can figure out the rest. It wasn't fun when my brake pedal wasn't the way it was supposed to be coming into Turn 1 after the main straight. That's all...

[Flashmn]

I just don't like it when myths and fears start to take over the facts.

I think I would know the facts, I study motorsports engineering, working towards getting a degree in it.

And if your stock brakelines work great, then great! Mine did for a bit, but after awhile, things started to really act up. I brake very aggressively and use such pads as cobalt friction spec-B or spec-VR's, and when you generate that kind of stopping power, you generate a lot of heat too. You can figure out the rest. It wasn't fun when my brake pedal wasn't the way it was supposed to be coming into Turn 1 after the main straight. That's all...

That would suggest your fluid to be shit already, not the lines. The lines themselves wont make a pedal feel different in the start and end. It would feel the same the whole time, better have that changed more often. By the way, I have semimetallic pads on my car and havent experienced brakefade yet. Yes the brakepads have been on fire, but still stopped great prior to that

[cheezthis]

My fluid is fine, I've been doing this for a long time. The rubber expands on the stock lines on my car when the fluid gets hot enough, hence, the ss lines come into play.

Yeah, I've caught my brakes on fire too before at MAM. That was fun.

[Flashmn]

Yeah, I've caught my brakes on fire too before at MAM. That was fun

haha, its worth the faces of others ;D... also I had my AC compressor seize once.. haha the belt started smoking... fun fun, you should of seen the faces of pedestrians

[Deuce]

do any OEM auto suppliers/auto manufacturers make better OEM replacements?