Gen 3 Camry Suspension Question

[dthepit]

ok so i have an eibach v6 pro kit, not installed yet. I would like to cut the front eibach springs so i could even out the drop. The drop is supposed to be 1.0"/1.0", but i want the front to be lower then that.

How many coils should/could i cut off the front to give it maybe a 1.5" drop.

Thanks in advance.

[Nick]

the standard safe way of doing it is to cut 1/2 a coil at a time, install them and have a look, maybe 1/4 once you're getting near where you want to be

remember to account for a bit of settling that the springs will do within a couple weeks of installation

[dthepit]

thanks oldman

the thing is, i would like to get the install done at once, not have to test it bit by bit. i heard from eye8pussies that the 4 cyl eibach's (which he is using) and the 6cy's have the same progression rate, just the 4cyl springs are shorter. Is there anyone who knows the real diff between the two, or perhaps someone who has cut their springs could give me a little insight.

thanks again

[Eye8Pussies]

to the best of my knowledge, and what I could see by comparing the two different springs when chancing mine was that the only real difference was the length of the two springs w/ the v6 springs being about and inch to an inch and a half longer....

presumably they would have the same spring rates or else they could have just changed the spring rates instead of changing the length of the springs to accomodate the difference in front-end weight.....but I suppose only eibach could tell us for certain

I personally don't think that cutting springs are a good idea, and I think that is also the general concensus among enthusiasts, but if you really do choose to do so, go to a mechanic that you trust and has cut springs before so that he can first of all cut the springs properly, and also mount the cut springs on the strut mounts correctly to prevent it from slipping off....otherwise....yeah.....

considering the quality of the eibach springs, if you were to use cut springs, I couldn't think of any other brand that would be any better

[Eye8Pussies]

oh, and on a side note....even tho the kit says that it drops 1" all around, it does a good bit more than that...it ends up being at least 2" after it has fully settled......the back will be even w/ the rear fender, and the front will have about 3 fingers if you have undersized tires (i.e. 215/45/17) instead of full sized (215/50/17 or 225/45/17)

this is from personal experience, so it *could* be diff.....

[dthepit]

hmmm, that reply was very informative, exactly what i was hoping for. Perhaps i will not be cutting the springs, but i will need to think about it. if i do, it will only be a 1/4 coil, or most at a half like oldman initially said.

thanks guys.

[dthepit]

yo eye8

is the pic in your sig with your new i-4 springs or with the old v6 springs?

[Wraith]

Or if you could take measurements for me ... I can suggest a part # from either Eibach or Tein ... And you can order the springs with the part # I supply to you... And all it is its going to be 2" shorter...

[dthepit]

The thing is that i already have the springs so i don't plan on getting new ones hence why i was planning on doing some chopping.

but thanks Wraith

[Eye8Pussies]

pic was with the v6 springs.....

[warlock]

you can just heat them!i say it you are going to cut or heat them put them on the car let them settal them do it.i mean buy heating them is have all the wight of the car on the springs and then take a torch and heatup the coils till close to where you like it and then match up the other side.i dont like cutting or heating but heating the springs you dont lose the seat of the spring

[SmokingTires]

Haha, Rice!!!!!!

Cutting springs is what honda drivers do *shakes head*

That's gonna mess up your car. Let Wriath help you. Your only going to screw yourself over by cutting them.

[dthepit]

/\ I was originally asking because you would be surprised, there are a few guys on this forum who haved chopped some of their springs, was kinda looking for their input aswell.

im going to drop the car need help

lata

[SmokingTires]

Yeah, I see.

Well the thing is, it's really dangerous to cut your springs. It causes a loss of stability, and over all strength in the spring. And it won't be able to properly support your cars weight. That's why springs are designed model specific. They are built so that they can support the needed amount of weight and still be able to do their job. By cutting them, your are going to weaken them majorly. And that will cause problems down the road.

So I wouldn't suggest it at all. Sell the ones you have on eBay or the Buy/Sell/Trade section of the forum, and then buy ones with a larger drop. I know they make springs with a 1.5" drop.

[dthepit]

I totally understand what you are saying, but my point is, if someone like John the CTM rep has a suspension setup with like 3 coils cut off his stock springs and can still drive around fine with like an inch between the fender and the wheel. Why would cutting off 1/4 or 1/2 a coil be so bad off my eibachs, just so i could get a more even drop.

Keep in mind aswell that i would get it done by someone who does have experience with it, and of all the lowering springs out there, these ones have the smallest drop with the best build quality and reliability, and with half a coil missing i can't see the difference between that and someone just buying the 4cyl eibach's and running them on their v6 cam.

Do ya see what i'm getting at?