91 camry 3s-fe Help needed

[milo]

Hey all ive been searching the web for hours now looking for some help and i stumbled here and after reading through some of the posts i hope someone can help me. I have a 91 camry with a 3s-fe engine in it....well my first quesiton is it possible to turbo it in anyway...there's a link http://camry.netfirms.com/ that says i can do it but doesnt have any instruction's or info on the turbo itself....also is it possible for me to convert to a 3s-gte or 4a-ge engine....id rather just turbo my 3s-fe since i dont wanna drop alot of money but just curious about the engine if i find one for cheap....thanks to all that help. much epreciated

[boroEF]

On 2002-05-07 21:49, milo wrote:
Hey all ive been searching the web for hours now looking for some help and i stumbled here and after reading through some of the posts i hope someone can help me. I have a 91 camry with a 3s-fe engine in it....well my first quesiton is it possible to turbo it in anyway...there's a link http://camry.netfirms.com/ that says i can do it but doesnt have any instruction's or info on the turbo itself....also is it possible for me to convert to a 3s-gte or 4a-ge engine....id rather just turbo my 3s-fe since i dont wanna drop alot of money but just curious about the engine if i find one for cheap....thanks to all that help. much epreciated

uhhhh 4age is kinda pointless? ur 3s-fe puts out 130hp if i am correct. a high comp 4age is 130hp. and is torqueless. anyway a turbo shouldnt be a prob. even if they dont make one, u can get a custom manifold...and just find a turbo and adapter plate to slap it on...do custom downpipe....and some ghetto plumbing...u'll be set!! just dont overboost it :smile:

[88 LE]

On 2002-05-07 21:49, milo wrote:
I have a 91 camry with a 3s-fe engine in it....well my first quesiton is it possible to turbo it in anyway...

Yes you can turbo your 3S-FE. I turbocharged my 3S-FE. Theres a thread on this forum about it if you need info on the parts that I used.

http://www.toyotanation.com/viewtopic.php?topic=3442&forum=2

also is it possible for me to convert to a 3s-gte or 4a-ge engine...

Yeah its possible. I've seen a few 2nd gen Camry's with 3S-GTE swaps.

[milo]

I have read that post and how did you do it though? obviously by your self but first off did you need to do any engine preps...port/polish, etc. and also ive heard its not a good idea to do it myself but to take it into a pro shop. Also how did you setup your engine managamet and AF ratio's?

[milo]

also i read you had to do welding of some of the fittings yourself...i dont know how to weld honestly and dont know anyone that does so this is all sounding difficult even though i understand everything...damn i wanna 3s-fte so bad and im so ready to do it. hehe what im most concerned about is detonation so engine prep's/af ratio's/engine managment has been my quesiton to alot and nobody seems to know anything bout it....as far as the turbo i found one around the same specs as your t3 off ebay i got the manifold i went to go look at old mr2 headers today as you advised with no luck so i might call JGS to build me a custom one if i still have no luck as far as the downpipes and all that im a bit lost as to where you positioned them....anways you should really consider writing a step by step how to =) hehehe

[88 LE]

On 2002-05-09 02:32, milo wrote:
I have read that post and how did you do it though? obviously by your self but first off did you need to do any engine preps...port/polish, etc.

The engine is stock.

and also ive heard its not a good idea to do it myself but to take it into a pro shop.

Thats up to you.

I'm not gonna pay a shop for something that I can do myself.

Also how did you setup your engine managamet and AF ratio's?

Engine management is handled by the stock ECU. I'm using a Vortech FMU set at 10:1 to raise the fuel pressure based on boost.

I'm not sure what my A/F ratio is at but, my buddie did some calculations and said that I need a 9:1 ratio on the FMU. The closest thing to that is 8:1 or 10:1 so I went with 10:1. I'll have to dyno it to see what the A/F is at.

[88 LE]

On 2002-05-09 02:43, milo wrote:
also i read you had to do welding of some of the fittings yourself...

Yeah. Not the fittings though. The fittings are Earl's AN fittings along with stainless steel braided lines.

I had to fabricate and weld the pipes.

i dont know how to weld honestly and dont know anyone that does

Learn how to weld or find someone that knows how. :grin:

hehe what im most concerned about is detonation so engine prep's/af ratio's/engine managment has been my quesiton to alot and nobody seems to know anything bout it....

With forced induction you wanna run about 11.5:1 - 12.5:1 A/F. You wanna keep it a little on the rich side.

How much boost do you wanna run? If your only gonna run something like 7psi theres no use spending $1000+ on a standalone computer.

Theres alot of options as far as engine management, just depends how much you wanna spend. For me a Vortech FMU does just fine. I could of went a AIC (additional injector controller) and extra injectors but, thats alot of money.

as far as the turbo i found one around the same specs as your t3 off ebay

Another place you can look is at a junkyard. I got my T3 from a 87 Saab 900 Turbo. :smile:

i got the manifold i went to go look at old mr2 headers today as you advised with no luck so i might call JGS to build me a custom one

You don't need headers if you have a turbo manifold.

Anyways i'm using the stock turbo manifold from a 91 MR2 Turbo. It bolts right onto a 3S-FE. I did have to make an adapter to bolt up my turbo though.

if i still have no luck as far as the downpipes and all that im a bit lost as to where you positioned them....

The downpipe is gonna have to custom made. My downpipe comes off the turbo (to the left when looking from the front of the car), goes right by the line for the a/c compresser, curves down, and goes right underneath the oil pan. The end of the downpipe is joined to the stock resonator (were the flange is at).

anways you should really consider writing a step by step how to =) hehehe

I don't think so. :grin:

It would take to much time and theres alot of steps involved.

[milo]

"You don't need headers if you have a turbo manifold. "

yea sorry i meant manifold sorry its 3 am on no sleep really tired up all night researching this project. Well i know i can run 7 psi's of boost fine on stock but my engine also has 160000 miles on it. im thinking about a rebuild but at the same time it runs great always have given it regular tuneups and oil changes. now for 14 psi's of boost yeah im gonna need ALOT of internal work but that is my ultimate goal...

[milo]

i know 14 psi's is a lil far fetched but man would that be one hell of a ride =P hehe. neways im gonna take my time with it on the internal's cause my buddy's dad own's a machine shop so ill get some machine work done for cheap not that cheap though still gonna cost me an arm and a leg especially being a college student. I looked at the Burien and Turbo performance kits...i think im ight go with them since im not gifted as much most on here and fear of screwin something up......

[88 LE]

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On 2002-05-09 04:12, milo wrote:

Well i know i can run 7 psi's of boost fine on stock but my engine also has 160000 miles on it.

I have alittle over 170,000 miles on mine.

7psi should be fine. Just watch the timing and A/F ratios.

I was running 10 - 11psi for a week till the headgasket blew.

now for 14 psi's of boost yeah im gonna need ALOT of internal work but that is my ultimate goal...

Your gonna need to beef up the bottom end if your gonna run 14psi. Forged pistons and billet rods. :grin:

If I were to build an engine for my Camry it would be a 3S-GTE, forget the 3S-FE.

[88 LE]

On 2002-05-09 04:17, milo wrote:
i know 14 psi's is a lil far fetched but man would that be one hell of a ride =P hehe.

Hell yeah.

I'm gonna run 20psi (built B18C1) on my drag Civic, thats if and when I get the car running.

I looked at the Burien and Turbo performance kits...i think im ight go with them since im not gifted as much most on here and fear of screwin something up......

Both of those kits are designed for the 5S-FE. They'll work on a 3S-FE but, you'll have to change some things.