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sleepr · 10-21-2004, 07:48 PM

so if i took a 3s block and had a 5s (2.2l) crank machined to fit 3S-GTE rod journals would it make it a 2.2 if i used that crank?

Pineapple · 10-21-2004, 11:22 PM

If you want a 2.2L Turbo, get a 5S block and put the 3S-GTE head on it.

88 LE · 10-22-2004, 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by sleepr
so if i took a 3s block and had a 5s (2.2l) crank machined to fit 3S-GTE rod journals would it make it a 2.2 if i used that crank?

Yes, you'd have a stroked 3S.

Crower and Pauter make rods that fit a 5S crank, so you don't have to machine the crank.

Pineapple · 10-22-2004, 11:17 AM

Isn't 5S got bigger bore?
Why stoke the 3S and not use 5S block and crank?
3S block stronger?

trebor_9513 · 10-22-2004, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by Pineapple
Isn't 5S got bigger bore?
Why stoke the 3S and not use 5S block and crank?
3S block stronger?

3s is supposed to have thicker walls. That's one reason everyone opts out of the 5sfte and gets scared of the 5sgte( well and the money needed too).

Flashmn · 10-22-2004, 11:31 AM

Isnt the 5S block taller than the 3S, if thats the case you wont be able to use the crank, nor the 5S internals.

88 LE · 10-22-2004, 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by Pineapple
Isn't 5S got bigger bore?

Slightly bigger. 3.43" (87mm) vs. 3.39" (86mm).

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Isnt the 5S block taller than the 3S, if thats the case you wont be able to use the crank, nor the 5S internals.

This was posted by Wraith:

2.2Liter 5s-gte v.1 (balance of power)= 3s-gte long block, 5s-fe crank, 1mm Over sied 3s-gte pistons ( 87mm bore), 5s-fe rods( 92mm stroke).

How to Make 5s-gte

sleepr · 10-22-2004, 02:47 PM

thanks for the info, i just wanted to know, because i already have the rods and pistons for a 3sgte, and i eather wanted to buy a turbo or make it a 2.2 this week end.

Wraith · 10-23-2004, 09:09 AM

5S-FE block is alot stronger than the 3s-gte crank...

sleepr · 10-23-2004, 11:10 AM

"3s is supposed to have thicker walls. That's one reason everyone opts out of the 5sfte and gets scared of the 5sgte( well and the money needed too)."

so not true?

Wraith · 10-23-2004, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by sleepr
"3s is supposed to have thicker walls. That's one reason everyone opts out of the 5sfte and gets scared of the 5sgte( well and the money needed too)."

so not true?

alot of the higher horsepower MR2 are running a 5s-fe blocks which are found in mr2's in Japan... And a few drag cars using a 3s-gte motors are using them...

sleepr · 10-23-2004, 04:11 PM

shit i didnt know that, i can gat at 2 or them at a local pick in pull

alltrac165 · 10-24-2004, 02:14 AM

Wraith,
did you have to do much to plumb for oil? Like are you using piston squirters? Where did you tap in for oil to the turbo? Just curious. I figure the drain back would be easy...
What other differences are there besides the 5S being a taller deck?

Wraith · 10-24-2004, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by alltrac165
Wraith,
did you have to do much to plumb for oil? Like are you using piston squirters? Where did you tap in for oil to the turbo? Just curious. I figure the drain back would be easy...
What other differences are there besides the 5S being a taller deck?

I did not plumb for oil squiters... I tapped the oil for the turbo at the head. The 5s-fe has bigger water and oil passages than the 3sgte. The bore is slightly bigger and the block can take a bigger sleeve...

alltrac165 · 10-24-2004, 10:55 AM

^kewl, thanks for the info