8mm Magnecors vs. 5mm Toyota Stock Wires

[LBT96]

5mm Stockers:



8mm Magnecors:



5mm Stockers vs. 8mm Magnecors:



GO MAGNECOR!!


Yes... Magnecor....


O.k. anyone here that knows about electronics or electrical knows about DMMs. Here is mine:

It is a Wavetek Meterman 35XP Digital Multimeter



Another view:


5mm Stock Wires:

I did this from shortest to longest wires. Of course, the longer the wire, greater the resistance.

Wire 1:

Reading is 6.85kohm


Wire 2:

Reading is 6.94kohms



Wire 3:

Reading is 9.42kohms



Wire 4:

Reading is 10.02kohms



Eh...

8mm Magnecor Wires:

Wire 1 (coil to distributor):

Reading is 3.39kohms


Wire 2:

Reading is 3.39kohms



Wire 3:

Reading is 4.00kohms



Wire 4:

Reading is 5.44kohms



Wire 5:

Reading is 5.79kohms



So... to conclude... Magnecor has stomped that a.s.s. by on average having 3.5-4.5kohms LESS resistance.

The lower the resistance, the better the current can flow. The better the current, the better the spark, the better the power.

$100 well spent.

[88 LE]

Cool experiment.

Pretty nice DMM you got there. I have a Fluke 87.

[CUCUY]

nice...i liked it better on H-I.com

just messing with you. it's great to see people change their plug wires and show why they are changing them. it'll help out alot of people who are new into cars and trying to figure out what does what

[LBT96]

heh, that was my goal.

I hope to have 8.5 magnecors, 8mm Nology, and 5mm TRD wires added two it by two other people.

[TekPhobia]

That's fine and dandy, but DC resistance means nothing. The kV coming from your coil is of the A/C nature. As a result, the voltage travels along the *surface* of the conductor; known as the skin-effect.

So, your claims of, "lower the resistance, the better the current can flow. The better the current, the better the spark, the better the power..." are false.

On the bright side, Magnecor wires are great. But they're never marketed as "low-resistance" or "adds xx HP."

-Tim

[LBT96]

Can you post a link to some more detailed information about that?

[LBT96]

Because what you are talking about is what happens with power lines. But that's a LOT more power than what we are talking about.

[userlain]

Originally Posted by TekPhobia

That's fine and dandy, but DC resistance means nothing. The kV coming from your coil is of the A/C nature. As a result, the voltage travels along the *surface* of the conductor; known as the skin-effect.

The new wire still has more surface area, therefore more area for the current to flow.

SHUTDOWN!

[LBT96]

Originally Posted by TekPhobia

That's fine and dandy, but DC resistance means nothing. The kV coming from your coil is of the A/C nature. As a result, the voltage travels along the *surface* of the conductor; known as the skin-effect.

So, your claims of, "lower the resistance, the better the current can flow. The better the current, the better the spark, the better the power..." are false.

On the bright side, Magnecor wires are great. But they're never marketed as "low-resistance" or "adds xx HP."

-Tim

O.k..

I looked a few things over. That is not AC current coming out of that coil to the distributor. You are crazy if you think that's what it is.

If you want, I'll take some readings under DC voltage coming out of the coil.

But AC going to the spark plugs is wrong.

[TekPhobia]

Originally Posted by LBT96

O.k..

I looked a few things over. That is not AC current coming out of that coil to the distributor. You are crazy if you think that's what it is.

If you want, I'll take some readings under DC voltage coming out of the coil.

But AC going to the spark plugs is wrong.

Yea...good luck getting DC out of that coil. Keep in mind you're dealing with 20-40,000+V. Give this a good read:

http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/truth.htm

-Tim

[Pineapple]

Originally Posted by userlain

The new wire still has more surface area, therefore more area for the current to flow.

SHUTDOWN!

The extra 3mm is insulation, not wire. Won't help current flow too.

[LBT96]

the potential 45,000 plus volts (with alternating current characteristics)

With AC characteristics? What kind of B.S. is that? Either it's AC or DC. There is no middle ground.

It's weird Magencor would post something like this.

What is not generally understood (or is ignored) is that as a result of the laws of electricity, the potential 45,000 plus volts (with alternating current characteristics) from the ignition coil (a pulse type transformer) does not flow through the entire the length of fine wire used for a spiral conductor like the 1 volt DC voltage from a test ohmmeter, but flows in a magnetic field surrounding the outermost surface of the spiral windings (skin effect). The same skin effect applies equally to the same pulsating flow of current passing through carbon and solid metal conductors.

Yes, AC does do that. DC current does not do the "skinning-effect"

It's odd that Magnecor is going against the electrical book I am studying from.

[VVT-i Owns]

Ignition Voltage is a AC source. Why is this?

Because it is never constant, the frequency of spark changes with the rotational speed of the engine.

I'm not sure if these wires make a difference, but I am sure that if they made a significant difference Toyota would have addressed the problem.

[TekPhobia]

Originally Posted by LBT96

With AC characteristics? What kind of B.S. is that? Either it's AC or DC. There is no middle ground.

It's weird Magencor would post something like this.



Yes, AC does do that. DC current does not do the "skinning-effect"

It's odd that Magnecor is going against the electrical book I am studying from.

Well, if you'd get your head outta yer ass you would see that they're comparing measuring DC resistance vs. the actual AC the wire carries. So, your little scientific-we-should-sticky-this experiment is moot.

But hey, if you wanna drive around thinking spark plug wires will add HP....go for it. You're just the market all the other 5000000 mfgr's target.


-Tim

[GTSR5Corolla]

I'd really love to see one application, even industrial where they run 20-50,000VDC.. the extra 3mm is just silicon.. way to get ripped off. I got my NGK wires for 27.00 dollars.. they are made to better than spec standards.. they won't shock me like the set of 40 dollar XACT wires I got at advance auto either.. and if you got a wire set that shocks you when you touch the distributor cap.. you are LOSING POWER.. it's very noticeable.

Now, take your 100 dollar "super special I'm a moron" wires and go home.

Btw, here is a good website for spark plug wires.. www.jcwhitney.com they sell NOLOGY wires.. and since more money = more horsepower. pick yourself up a set of 200.00 NOLOGY spark plug wires..