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Old 10-07-2002, 11:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question about clutch....

Hey guys, does a performance clutch give you any extra HP?, what is the difference between a regular stock like clutch, or a performance clutch?

thanx guys
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Old 10-09-2002, 03:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Question about clutch....

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Hey guys, does a performance clutch give you any extra HP?, what is the difference between a regular stock like clutch, or a performance clutch?

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it doesnt give you hp ... It can hold down lot more torque load than the stock ...
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Old 10-10-2002, 07:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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well in my opinion(not trying to argue)it sort of does give you hp, dont get me wrong I know it dosnt but it gives you a better jump on the line and helps deliever the torque better so I would say it does allow u to deliever ur cars performance better, possibly making it feel faster but its just helping a lot! I plan on getting a stage II!
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Old 11-01-2002, 11:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Question about clutch....

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Hey guys, does a performance clutch give you any extra HP?, what is the difference between a regular stock like clutch, or a performance clutch?

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it doesnt give you hp ... It can hold down lot more torque load than the stock ...
Anf engagement....though for lightly modified engines, get a sprung clutch. There will be vagueness.

Dedicated race cars: you can get away with the multiplate plates, un-sprung, puck clutch. Ultra sharp engagement....in a regular car...kiss your drivetrain goodbye.
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Old 11-01-2002, 10:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah and on/off racing clutches are a bitch to drive in the city. If you have a relatively stock engine and arent pushing out high horsepower, stock clutch is the best way to go for you. I know several people who use a stock toyota clutch with a turbo application, just to keep the good streetability of the car.
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Old 11-04-2002, 08:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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turbo application? never heard of that before. is it something special or am i just a dumbass. I'm gettin a new clutch for my 89 supra turbo. just has exhaust and intake done. don't know if i want to go stock clutch or get a performance clutch that's rated a lil higher.
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I'd get a stock clutch.
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Old 11-06-2002, 03:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I was going to post a thread on this but I will tack it on here....

One of the things I don't like about my car (along with the tires) is the clutch. It is "mushy" and the pedal travel is to long, plus it engages really high off the floor. My dad's old '76 BMW 2002 has a clutch that I really like. It feels "stiffer" and has a shorter travel and engages closer the the floor.

I don't want a race clutch but would something like a Centerforce 1 give me the feel I am looking for?? I want it to be very streetable and useful in stop and go traffic, etc. It is suposed to be a street application clutch. Or could I use a Celica GT clutch? Maybe that would be a good middle ground. I know they also have the 1ZZFE engine...
Anyway, maybe I just have to get used to the fact that I drive a compact family sedan and the clutch is weak.

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the sprung design allows the smoother engagement, consequently, it gives it the mushy feeling.

Upgrading to the Centerforce clutch just gives you a high torque capacity.
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What about the difference in feel betwwen a stock clutch and a Centerforce one-type entry level street performance clutch. I know they are meant to hold more power, so even though they are still sprung the spring is stiffer right? =less mushy?
My feeling is that the clutch and tires for the Corolla are not up to par with the engine, especially the way I drive. So I might not have a but-load of torque to hold down, but I want a clutch that engages more directly, and if possible, with a shorter pedal stroke. Can I get this kind of feel from an upgrade clutch, or will it feel the same? Would a Celica clutch help in this area? Anyone?
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Your clutch would probably still feel mushy, why? because its hydraulic. BMW, Mercedes, VW, Audi all have mechanical clutches thats why they feel stiffer. My uncles 87 MK-II golf has the sickest clutch EVER, feels exactly like a racing clutch, but its stock. So the way it works is a big contributor to the way it feels and hydraulics are usually all more mushy.
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And few more answers to you Chris Corolla, a celica clutch wouldnt fit, the 3S-G(T)E has alot bigger clutch than the corolla, so it wouldnt bolt up. Personally I think the clutch is on par with the engine, Toyota wouldnt of put a insufficient clutch in there in the 1st place, their not _THAT_ dumb, maybe you've just worn yours down so it feels like it insufficient, but its actually slipping. As for the tires, well a toyota isnt a big and heavy car, so the tires dont need to be really big, but if you arent satisfied with them, maybe going one or two sizes wider and lower profiled might change the way you feel about your car. As for getting a clutch that would engage with less stroke, hmm, thats a tough question, but I think (not 100% sure) that the toyota clutch is auto-adjusting, but if yours is worned out, it would engage almost a the top reach of the pedal, but I doubt you could shorten the stroke of the pedal.

EDIT: Hmm I didnt realize you had an 1ZZ-FE, so some of my info might have a degree of error.
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And few more answers to you Chris Corolla, a celica clutch wouldnt fit, the 3S-G(T)E has alot bigger clutch than the corolla
FYI, the new Celi use 1ZZ/2ZZ, not 3S anymore.
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Old 11-07-2002, 01:20 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I thought the new Celica GTs had 1ZZFE?? No? My tires are crappy because they have no grip, especially in rain. It is because they are Firestone FR680s, and they suck, the size is just fine. Almost all new car reviews for my car mention how much they suck - they also wander on the highway. I will be getting some Dunlop SP Sport A2s that are one size shorter and wider.
My car only has 33,000m(52,000k) so I hope the damm clutch is not worn out yet. It has seen some minor abuse when I attempted to teach my girlfriend how to drive stick, but that was just one afternoon. It should be bullet-proof in my opinion if its a toyota part. Besides, I noticed the insufficency of the clutch when it was bran new. Have you driven a 98+ Corolla with a stick??
So you are saying I am fvcked because my car has a hydraulic cluth? So there is no feel/engagement variation among all hydralic clutches?? I find this hard to believe.

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there may be an adjustment that you can do.

When I got my clutch replace, the mechanic adjusted the clutch to use much less effort (when I was used to a heavy clutch feel)
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