My spedometer reaches 110 mph. I have heard that Corolla's are electronically limmited(or goverened) to 110 mph.
But, I heard a Canadian guy from Corolla Customz saying that his was limmited to Blah km/hr which worked out to 112mph, but I was like, oh, they probably just rounded to the nearest even mph for the American version.
But then I noticed that my Manual lists the maximum top speed for each gear "in case maximum acceleration is needed". It says 112mph for fourth gear. So I think 112 mph is my actual limmited top speed. This explains my stellar gas mileage as I have a "true" overdrive gear in fifth.
So here's the question: If I can attain top speed in fourth, could I go 130+mph(208kph) in fifth gear if I removed my governer?? Has anyone with a 98+ rolla done this? Conversly I wonder If I could get a close-ratio gear set for the tranny, keep the 112 top speed, but radically increase acceleration?(Although this apeals to me less because I like good gas mileage) Or even a six-speed to bump up the OD and use fifth for a higher top speed?
FYI i have already, or I wouldn't be posting this shiznit.
On the empty straight flat freeway I have already gone 110mph racing around with a GTI Golf.
On my last racing post you can see that I reached 95+mph racing a Honda and if it had gone much furthur than i would have maxed out
I will do autocross eventually, but I know those speeds are not that fast, But I would assume I could do 110+ on a straight away at a track. Do you know how long straights usually are? I only need 1/2 mile or so.
Anyway, I was just curious about the potential of my car
I've maxed my car out a couple times and 112mph is the limited speed.
Now if your car can reach top speed @ 4th gear I would assume that you could go faster if you removed the gov. as long as your RPM's did't reach the fuel cut off range.
I have a automatic so I think removing the speed limiter would make me have to reprogram the shift points of the tran. yes / no?
Wow, it seems you guys have almost managed to totally miss all of my points.
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Originally Posted by ElegantKamuri
Close-ratio gear box will not give you better gas mileage, it's actually the reverse.
Where did I say that? I'm not stupid man. Read my question. My car can reach top speed in FOURTH gear and its a FIVE speed transmission. Now do you see why I might want a close-ratio transmission?? If I keep my governer, but get a closer ratio tranny, I could accelerate faster with the same top speed. Right??
The only thing I said about fuel economy was that I might NOT want to get a close ratio tranny because it would HURT my fuel economy.
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Originally Posted by ElegantKamuri
110mph? That's like 190km/h? I've been there.
Actually, I believe the conversion is 60% so it's only 176kph
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Originally Posted by Lafora
but..if you really want an answer. longer gear ratios = higher speed, not the reverse
i don't see how you CANT' do a higher speed if you remove the governor.
Are we reading the same post?? Abviously longer ratios equal higher speed, I never said the reverse.
But that second thing, Lafora, now there's something interesting. I know I CAN go faster without the governer, but I wonder HOW MUCH faster, if it will hurt the car, and if the acceleration would fall off dramatically because it would be out of its power range. For instance, would 5th from 110-130 have similair acceleration as 4th does from 80-100, or would it be painfully slow?
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Originally Posted by Nick
fifth gear ain't gonna do sh*t....its an over drive gear.
longer final drive and more power.
:roll: ??? Ah, yah, not sure what you are getting at here. Obviously fith is over drive as I stated in my first post. When you say longer final drive and more power what do you mean?? OD has the longest gear? Yah? Maybe you could form a complete sentance if you care to have me understand.
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Originally Posted by InNeedofH2O
I've maxed my car out a couple times and 112mph is the limited speed.
That confirms that at least.
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Originally Posted by H2O
I have a automatic so I think removing the speed limiter would make me have to reprogram the shift points of the tran. yes / no?
I don't think so. Do you have a tach? Do You have OD? If you have the four speed auto I would guess that you are no where near your redline when you are going top speed in OD.
Again has any one removed the governer on their newer Corolla?
See, Camry owners don't have this problem because they are limmited to a healthy 130mph(208kph)(or there abouts), and older Corollas don't even have a governer, so I can see why you guys might find this post frivolous.
Where did I say that? I'm not stupid man. Read my question. My car can reach top speed in FOURTH gear and its a FIVE speed transmission.
For most cars, top speed can be reached at the 2nd last gear since the last gear is always O/D. You don't see a 6-speed car topping out at 6th, it's the 5th that tops out.
Are we having a baad day Christopher??? I mean I know that your Q's werent answered with perfection but c'mon man... fcknrelax.
yes you will go faster if you remove the governer. With no bad things happening to your car. Im not sure about the gain during 5th... I assume that it will not be that quick, as it is the final gear. I have removed governeres from older chevy trucks and cars and they go beond what I had expected. It makes you wonder why they are put on there in the first place. I have 2 friends that drive the same car, year and all, one of them has a governer, one dosent. Wierd eh?
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Yes, actually I am having a very bad day :
My girlfriend of two years said she hated me this morning. :cry: And it doesn't help when people respond to my serious post with sarcasm and derision like I'm an idiot for even asking my questions.
Elegant - I guess your right that is true for most NEW cars. My dad's '76 BMW 2002 has a four on the floor and it definitly won't hit top speed in third My girlfriend's old '91 Tercel had a three speed Auto and it won't hit top speed in second. I think it does not apply even to todays smaller cars with three-speed autos.
And I would think that a five speed that is geared more towards acceleration would not have as tall a fifth gear (with a higher governer), unlike my car, whcih is geared towards fuel economy, so has a low governer, and a tall OD. Besides remember we are talkign about the governed top speed, which is artificial, not the cars actual top speed, which otherwise would be reached in the top gear.
And Wunderboy - thanks for being the first person to attemp to actually answer my questions. Yes, I do need to relax very badly. I am having a very shitty time.
Peace dudes and sorry for being bitchy.
Chris
I don't think so. Do you have a tach? Do You have OD? If you have the four speed auto I would guess that you are no where near your redline when you are going top speed in OD.
4 spd auto it is w/OD, no tach (why they put them on auto's is beyond me)
And from the sound of the rpm's it doesn't have much more I would estimate 125mph tops
good i hope she hates you, cuz your a fucking moron.
if you already know fifth is an overdrive gear, why even talk about it like its a factor in getting top speed? obviously you don't have a clue what your talking about so drop the pretentious "mr know it all " attitude.
Fifth gear is not going to do anything with regards to your top speed. all the power you need to make to acheive top speed would be done in fourth. therefore 5th gear shouldn't even have been brought up. 5th gear, so to speak, eases the stress on your engine. its not a power generating drive.
more power? that should be self explanatory. what part of the car do we refer to when speaking of power? do you think i'm talking about how fucking strong you are?
longer final drive. do you know what the final drive is? if not, goto howstuffworks and read up on it. until you get a general idea of how gearing works, our answers are falling on deaf ears.
and no, longer gears don't equal higher speeds. longer gears equal more time to reach the high speed. more power and higher power band equal higher speeds.
i swear your a genius and a half. stop being a pretentious prick by assuming that we're the dull ones for not understanding your question. in fact, i read all the responses and they were pretty accurate. if those weren't the answers you were looking for, perhaps reword your question better next time.
and for future reference, keep your personal grief and fucking pain off the board....this is not fucking Days of Our Lives asshole.
when you pedal on your largest gear (the largest sprocket) you can acheive a faster speed with a lower cadence as oppose to a smaller gear (slower top speed with faster cadence). However, your top speed is only as good as how powerfull your legs are and how much energy you have. if you went full out, you'd prolly could only last a few minutes.
Now put a Tour de France cyclist in the same position. Same thing, except they can achevie a higher top speed with more ease because they have stronger legs and are conditioned better to sustain longer and more intense rides. in essence, they acheive a higher cadence (think of it as RPMs) on a larger gear. they can reach their top speed quicker, can exceede your top speed and sustain it for a lngthy period of time due to their power.
same thing with the car.
put longer gear ratios on a 100hp corolla and it'll take you literally forever to acheive a substantial top speed. furthermore, it'll put severe duress on your drive and power train because you're making it harder for the engine to rev. however, on big power cars, longer ratios are needed to prevent the car from maxing out too early. they don't have to worry about lugging the engine or stressing the drive/power train because they are pushing 3 to 7 times more power than a 100hp corolla. all they are concerned with is "how to maximize speed efficiency".
in short, yes longer ratios are needed to achevie better top speeds. but only in conjunction with the right supply of power. you need both....longer ratios and more power.
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For most cars, top speed can be reached at the 2nd last gear since the last gear is always O/D. You don't see a 6-speed car topping out at 6th, it's the 5th that tops out.
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