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Old 04-08-2006, 09:17 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Agree! NXT gives good shine, easy on and off, smells good..but doesn't last long!
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For off the shelf stuff, look for Mothers #26 Yellow Carnauba paste wax. It's probably the most durable wax that you can find at most retail stores. It's not as easy to remove as a synthetic, like NXT or Nanowax, but it will last much longer.

If you're wanting something better than off the shelf, try Klasse AIO. Or here are a few of my other favorites that have great shine and durability.

Mother's Reflections
PoorBoys EX-P
MooseWax

You can't go wrong with any of these.
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Thanks for the links, IYO, of those three, which is the best, longest lasting?
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Thanks for the links, IYO, of those three, which is the best, longest lasting?
I would go with the PoorBoys. Another good thing about the PoorBoys is that their products can be applied in direct sunlight. There are very few waxes that can be properly applied in direct hot sunlight, but Poorboys is one of them. If you live in Hawaii, CA, or Florida then you might want to check out the PoorBoys stuff. I just recently tried it, and I guarantee you won't be disappointed.

If you have dark colored paint you might want to add some of this on top of the PoorBoys EX-P. http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/s...4434&pd=220119 Nattys blue wax is great for adding a wet look, and it seems to darken and deepen the color of the paint too. I would let the EX-P cure for a few hours before applying the Nattys. If you use a buffer to apply the Nattys, use a low speed and soft pad. You don't want to get too agressive and possibly remove some of the EX-P layer.

If you want to place an order for some PoorBoys stuff, send a PM to our TN member: exceldetail. I think he will give you some freebie towels along with your order.
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BTW, if you're going to place an order with Excel, then you might want to add some Optimum car wash to your order. http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/s...6688&pd=277629 It's a little pricey, but it's worth it IMO. A good car wash soap can save you lots of hours of polishing. Better lubrication = less marring and scratches.

The gallon jug is a much better value. http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/s...6688&pd=277630
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Another option for both durability and looks is Collinite's 845 Insulator Wax. It's been around for quite some time, but has been developing quite a strong following on the aforementioned Autopia Forums lately. It is a clear wax, with no real cleaning/hiding abilities, goes on easily (it's a liquid), removes easily (apply very thinly), VERY economical to use, leaves no residue, and gives 4-6 months of durability (well, beading, anyway), with the crazy beading starting to loosen up after about 6-8 weeks (YMMV). I used to use Meg's #16 Pro Paste Wax (discontinued), which was very durable with decent looks, but the Collinite won me over. The only negative is the strong solvent smell, but the ease of use, looks and durability have made it my go-to wax.

I've had pretty good results with NXT paste; looks great on dark metallics, decent durability, smells nice, easy to use, but hard to wash out of applicators. It's light cleaning ability will also remove much of anything you put under it, so there's no sense in using it over your Klasse. NXT liquid, in my experience, showed mediocre durability against the paste version.

I like Klasse AIO due to its chemical cleaning properties. It's great for helping me clean off old wax residue on trim, and it's a good base for me to top it with pretty much anything, wax or sealant. Its durability hasn't really impressed me (but that could be a climate factor), and its swirl-removing ability touted on the container hasn't been borne out in actual usage, but it's a mainstay in my arsenal. I've stayed away from the SG, as a 24-hour cure time before the next layer doesn't mesh well with my customers' schedules, I'm not fond of the look on dark cars, and a number of people on Autopia have had removal issues (perhaps caused by humidity or over-application).

Sealant-wise, I've had great results with Poorboy's EX w/ Carnauba on dark-colored cars (love the Hello Kitty eraser scent too), and Four Star Ultimate Paint Protection on lighter cars, but I tend to top sealants with waxes anyway to deepen the look and preserve the durability (UPP makes white explode, but has middling durability in my experience). Both are very easy to remove (still need curing time, though).

For all you black car owners who consider waxing your car to be a sensual experience rather than a chore, why not give Pinnacle Souveran a try? Yes it's expensive (as low as $50), yes it beads for only 2-4 weeks, but on properly-prepped black paint, I have not seen anything as deep/wet-looking. It's amazing stuff, smells like a tropical drink, applies/removes easily, and you can get up to 50 applications out of that little 6-oz jar. Pure beauty wax. Not as reflective as a sealant, and it can mute lighter colors, and other waxes can give 80-90% of the look, but Souveran, IMO is worth it. For special occasions.

BTW, another vote here for exceldetail. If I didn't have Ranney at Pakshak in my backyard, I'd definitely give exceldetail a ring. His reputation for service, quality products and going the extra mile for his customers precedes him, and he is a deeply respected member on the Autopia forums.
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Never heard of poorboys before. Thanks pb for that. Should try some, theres hardly ever a chance of cleaning/waxing properly in the shade over here... unless it's about to rain...
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Never heard of poorboys before. Thanks pb for that. Should try some, theres hardly ever a chance of cleaning/waxing properly in the shade over here... unless it's about to rain...
For wax, try their EX or EX-P. EX-P is more durable, but not quite as much depth as the EX. If you have a dark colored vehicle I would use the EX, othewise get the EX-P.
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Thanks, think I'll go with the ex-p. I have a silver streak taco. Any idea on how the finish is like or comparable too?
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EX-P does awesome on silver, and helps show off any metal flake in the paint. If you want to go an extra step and try to add some depth, add a carnauba topper the next day after you apply the EX-P. Try Natty's Blue (also available at Excel Detail) or P21S (available at Autopia).
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i am now using the NXT wash because i wasn't overly happy on how long the slippery finish was lasting with just using the NXT polish , and a different brand wash liquid...

now combined the NXT polish with the NXT wash , it seems to keep the perfect finish for longer...
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i am now using the NXT wash because i wasn't overly happy on how long the slippery finish was lasting with just using the NXT polish , and a different brand wash liquid...

now combined the NXT polish with the NXT wash , it seems to keep the perfect finish for longer...
Do you mean NXT wax?

You should never use just polish. Polish has no protective properties. If you just polish, your paint is sitting there naked with no protection from the sun or contaminants. Polish just cleans the paint. After polishing you should always follow up with wax, to protect the paint and keep the gloss.

Generally, NXT car wash works good with NXT wax; that's how it was engineered. I like using car wash that is made to rejuvinate the wax. P21S Car Wash has products in it that will enhance a carnauba wax job, and not just clean the paint. PoorBoys Slick Suds is good stuff too.
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yep , we call the wax the final polish here..
i know what i meant lol
i own a detailing business and have been doing it for about 7 years , so i know what im suppost to do
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