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Old 08-28-2007, 07:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Finally got my engine bay finished

I truly wish I had taken 'before' pictures of this. The hoses were white with degreaser stains. The hose between the motor and the air filter box was absolutely brown from whatever crap had been put on it. Some detailers use tire shine to quick detail engine bays. The problem with that is tire shine doesn't always like the temperatures that engines create and it will literally get toasted and gum up. So between someone spraying some full strength degreaser that wasn't necessarily intended for engine detailing (something like straight up Simple Green) and the tire shine, it caused for a real wreck of an engine bay. There was also the expected dirt and grime from 53,000 miles of driving. It was not the sort of thing I could complete in one session, so I spend a couple hours over the course of a couple days getting it shined up. So without before pictures it doesn't look too dramatic, but here are the afters.











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Old 08-28-2007, 07:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I suppose I could talk about the process, since this is the detailing forum. I started out with Gunk foaming engine degreaser. I find that it is a very good product that gets the top layer of crud off. Detailing an engine isn't like putting out a fire and you have to be careful where you spray things. Always avoid the alternator when you are spraying flamable products like degreaser around. I've seen alternators start on fire when people have been a little too liberal with their products. Basically I just spray the perimeter of the engine bay and do the rest by hand. I knew it wasn't going to do much good on the hoses and plastics that were already messed up, so I stuck to the perimeter. Then I used low pressure water and rinsed it off.

After I rinsed I went back in with some diluted all purpose cleaner and started the real work by hand. Simple Green has the dilution ratios on the bottle if you are using something like that. I was using a product that I ordered online called White Lightning. Any all purpose cleaner properly diluted would probably produce the same results. My philosophy with engine detailing is that if I can see it, then I can clean it. I've got some great tools that I bought for detailing my motorcycle, but they work great to help push rags and things under hard to reach places. They are called Slick Stixxx and I've found a million uses for them. They are certianly helpful for motorcycle cleaning if you happen to ride as well. I actually get more use out of them for engine detailing than bikes, but whatever works. I used to just use screw drivers and things that could possibly scratch paint inside the bay, but these are much better because of the plastic tips and rubber coated handles.

After I have cleaned everything that could be cleaned I went to work with a rubber/vinyl cleaner on the hoses and plastics. I use Meguiar's #39 for that kind of thing. It is a very good cleaner that is kind of hard to find. Many auto paint supply shops are Meguiar's and 3M distributors, so I would check there if you are looking for it. I use that product and a tooth brush to scrub the affected surfaces. It took a lot of time on that hose connecting the air box, but finally I got it all cleaned and restored. I was worried that I would need to buy a new one for awhile there.

There were some aluminum pieces that were damaged by the degreaser that I had to take care of as well. I used Eagle One Nevr Dull on those. It basically looks like cotton that you pull out of the can and then rub on chrome and aluminum parts that need to be shined. It works amazingly well. The things it has done on motorcycles I've restored would amaze you. I only had a couple areas to treat with this, so that went pretty fast.

The final step was to shine everything up. I used CD2 Engine Detailer on that. I've yet to find its equal in what it does. It can lightly clean rubber, paint, and plastic as well as provide a great shine that lasts and lasts and lasts. This is a product that produces the shine that a tire shine product would give you, but without the harmful side effects of messing things up. Heat actually helps this product last even longer. It is a non greasy product that protects hoses and plastics from damage. The things this product has done would also amaze you. The problem is that it is pretty tough to find. Turtle Wax owns CD2 now and they still have it on their website, but you pretty much have to order it online in order to find it anywhere. I get mine off a vendor on Amazon.com. It still runs about ten bucks a can, but I get $60 bucks for an engine detail and one can will do three or four engines in bad shape. They definitely pay for themselves.

That is basically my process for engine detailing. The same process can be used for any engine in just about any shape. The products aren't as important as the process. Just remember that engine detailing doesn't come in a can and usually a bit of elbow grease is required for best results in any detailing project.
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Wow looks amazing man my last attempts to make my engine look good have failed...
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That's some amazing detail work there. I was just looking at this engine protectant and was wondering if you have had any experiance with it.

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Blech! I hate that stuff. It is a nightmare to apply and it looks terrible if you do it wrong. I bought a bottle and it is now sitting on my 'disgraced products shelf'. I have yet to find something to use that stuff on. I thought it would be a good substitute for CD2 Engine Detailer when that started getting harder to find, but it was a big mistake. One thing I will say is that the stuff is durable. If you make a mistake and spray it somewhere you don't want it, good luck getting it off. My son picked up the bottle and sprayed it on the side of my car once. It took forever to get it off. Clay didn't work, polishing didn't work, paint thinner didn't work... I was about to go for the 250 grit sand paper and see what that would do by the time I got it off by scratching with my thumbnail. It is not something I would recommend.
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I use 303 Aerospace protectant. Gives a little bit of shine, and not greasy.
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Blech! I hate that stuff. It is a nightmare to apply and it looks terrible if you do it wrong. I bought a bottle and it is now sitting on my 'disgraced products shelf'. I have yet to find something to use that stuff on. I thought it would be a good substitute for CD2 Engine Detailer when that started getting harder to find, but it was a big mistake. One thing I will say is that the stuff is durable. If you make a mistake and spray it somewhere you don't want it, good luck getting it off. My son picked up the bottle and sprayed it on the side of my car once. It took forever to get it off. Clay didn't work, polishing didn't work, paint thinner didn't work... I was about to go for the 250 grit sand paper and see what that would do by the time I got it off by scratching with my thumbnail. It is not something I would recommend.
Thanks for the heads up. I'm just getting together my detailing stuff to care for my 07 Camry. I have the Mag Grey. I'm probably going to go with the Wolfgang sealant. I was leaning toward the Klasse, but after reading a bit in this forum, I changed my mind.

Do you recomend going with a "kit" from Wolfgang. I have only gotten Costco microfiber towels Armor all non amonia window cleaner (I have tints) and a bottle of 303 aerospace protectant so far. I use Mint Condition car wash (had it for a long time) from Amway.
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I use 303 Aerospace protectant. Gives a little bit of shine, and not greasy.
Great stuff. I just started using it myself for the dash. How long does it hold up in the engine compartment?
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303 Aerospace is awesome stuff. I would definitely suggest using it on anything you are concerned about UV fading on. I use it on my motorcycle seats and any convertible top. I've used it the engine bay before as well and it holds up pretty good. I don't really care how long it lasts as long as it can shine things up for a couple weeks between details. It lasts about as long as armor all or any other vinyl/rubber protectant will last, but it does the protecting job a lot better when you are dealing with UV rays. It's like SPF 500. I agree with Rapid Roy. It is very great stuff.

The proper technique is to wash, clay, polish, and then protect. Wolfgang has a couple kits that give you products to help in that process. The pre-wax polish enhancer is a great base and sort of a primer for the sealant. I would suggest that you at least get that. It will do an awesome job at cleaning oxidation and any other surface contamination off the paint. You'll want to clay it in order to pull out the industrial fallout and remove things like tree sap and road tar first, but after that and the pre-wax you will be ready for the sealant. After that you just need to be ready for the slickest feeling car you've ever felt in your life. It is awesome stuff.
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Okay, I just ordered this

Wolfgang Deep Gloss Total Concours Kit


Kit includes:
16 oz. Wolfgang Auto Bathe
16 oz. Wolfgang Clay Lubricant
4 oz. Wolfgang Elastic Poly Clay Bar
16 oz. Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant
16 oz. Wolfgang Paintwork Polish Enhancer
16 oz. Wolfgang Instant Detail Spritz
2 Cobra Microfiber Detailing Cloths
2 Cobra Microfiber Applicator Pads
2 Foam Applicators
Wolfgang Handbook


15% off labor day sale and 7.99 flat shipping. It seemed like a good value to me. Should I order anything else. What will run out first. I do have an old random orbit auto polisher (I think it is a Mequires branded one). It it even worth trying to use it?
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quick ? first off it looks wicked good. nice job. how do u do like the battery? u remove it and use like terminal cleaner? and then for everything else you just are wicked careful? im gonna try to clean the engine bay of my camry after buy some of those products you guys mentioned. are there any other areas besides the radiator you have to be wicked careful about? just wanna make sure b4 i attempt. thanks
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
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The radiator isn't a concern. It is the alternator you have to be careful around. I would try and avoid soaking any electrical connections too.
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