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Old 10-28-2007, 06:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Clay Bar Question

If you already have a nice coat of wax on your vehicle, should you strip it off before doing the Mother's clay bar system? Also, after you do the clay bar, should you re-wash the vehicle before waxing? I watched that short video that was on this forum, and it doesn't state whether to re-wash after the use of the clay bar. I don't know if they just didn't say it cause they wanted to make it sound as simple as possible, or they just wanted to get the endorsement about their wax in before the video ended.
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Old 10-28-2007, 07:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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First things first. The clay bar will remove the wax that is there. Secondly if you are wiping off the clay lubrication/ detailer spray you are using after doing a section theres no need to rewash your vehicle, some do it by preference, I find it an extreme waste of time I just get to paint polishing or waxing, depending what I'm doin. hope that helped you.
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What he said. lol. Wash, clay (wipe as u go along), then do the polishing and protecting. Whether you use sealant or wax to protect is up to you. Check out Autogeek.net for good advice too. Some people wash after claying and rinse with distilled water to avoid any water spots but that can be costly if you wash often.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:50 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Wash, clay, polish, wax.
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Just out of curiousity, has anyone really noticed a big difference after the clay bar. Ive used it a couple times on my car and once on the wifes car and have seen absolutly no difference.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Just out of curiousity, has anyone really noticed a big difference after the clay bar. Ive used it a couple times on my car and once on the wifes car and have seen absolutly no difference.
In most cases, you will see no difference, unless you are removing overspray or other obvious types of contaminants.

Clay is used to remove tiny particles that are stuck in your paint (iron oxide, rail dust, etc). Most of the time, you can't see them, unless they are rusting. That becomes more obvious in white paint.

You should feel the difference, however. Before claying, you may notice a gritty feel to the paint as you slide your hand acrossed it. After claying, it should be smooth as glass.

Claying is mostly about paint maintenance and not about looks (with few exceptions, like overspray). Similar to changing engine oil.

That said, you should be claying based on feel...if your paint is as smooth as glass, you probably don't need to clay. Also, you may need to clay some areas where contaminants tend to accumulate more than others (roof, tailgate, hood, trunk, etc.). My friend's Magnum's tailgate was like sandpaper before I clayed it, but the rest of the car was fine. I'm guessing that the turbulence behind the vehicle and possibly contaminants from the exhaust caused this.

Also note that this sort of stuff cannot be removed with polish. I know, because I tried polishing that tailgate and it made no difference. Claying took it off in three passes.

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I agree that you won't see a big difference when you clay, but there should be at least a little bit of difference. You are removing small contaminants that block the beauty of your paint. Kinda like zits on your face. LOL

Claying mainly gets the paint clean and ready to be polished or waxed.
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I guess it also depends on how bad you needed to clay. I don't wait that long on my vehicles...maybe a really overdue paint surface would show more of a difference? Probably depends on the color, too.

That Magnum I mentioned was a dark metallic charcoal and was in desperate need of claying. I did one side of the tailgate only and you could see absolutely no difference.

I bet it also depends on the type of contamination you are removing. The tiny rail dust particles versus tree sap, etc.
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Just out of curiousity, has anyone really noticed a big difference after the clay bar. Ive used it a couple times on my car and once on the wifes car and have seen absolutly no difference.
i did it once on my car and i seen a differance. i have a white car and after i did it the paint just looked alot cleaner because like they say it removes little particles that washing doesnt
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A white Mercedes I did a while back had rust 'dots' on the hood that went away when I clayed it...
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