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Old 10-30-2007, 10:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How Many coats of wax?

Hi All,

I just got a new '07 4Runner Sport in titanium. This past weekend, I clayed, sealed and waxed the car using MOther's clay bar, sealer glaze, and wax.

Question is though how many coats do you guys typically put on of the wax? I put 1 coat on but winter is fast approaching and don't look forward to having to do that in the winter. Will adding additional coats really be more effective or just give it a deeper shine? I like the way it came out.
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If you have the extra time then you can add another coat or two. It will add a little more gloss, but it may or may not be enough to be worth the effort. It's up to you. It can give a little more protection. Some waxes need some curing time in between coats. What kind of wax are you using?
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Thanks for the reply I used Mother's carnuba wax, paste
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Hi All,

I just got a new '07 4Runner Sport in titanium. This past weekend, I clayed, sealed and waxed the car using Mother's clay bar, sealer glaze, and wax.

Question is though how many coats do you guys typically put on of the wax? I put 1 coat on but winter is fast approaching and don't look forward to having to do that in the winter. Will adding additional coats really be more effective or just give it a deeper shine? I like the way it came out.
On a carnauba, I question the value of extra 'coats'. I think a second 'coat' may cover areas that may not have gotten enough wax the first time around, but additional coats are most likely not going to do much.

Of course if you say you're going to put a coat on every week after you wash your vehicle, there is value, because you remove some wax every time you wash.

Synthetics are different and you may get some value out of multiple coats as long as you adhere to the curing requirements.
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Synthetics are really the only products that will layer effectively. With carnaubas there is a certian amount of solvent content involved that basically just blends one coat with the next. So you aren't really layering so much as you are just renewing the previous coat. With synthetics you are truely bonding one coat on top of the next and thus strengthening your overall protection. Products like Zaino and Klasse have been known to literally give several months worth of protection due to the multiple layers that have been added. It just depends on how long you really want to go between waxing your car. For me I really enjoy being out doing that kind of work, so a product doesn't really need to last for five or six months to make me happy. As long as it is glossy for five or six weeks then I'm satisfied. I rarely go that long without throwing on another coat anyway.
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OCDetails...did we just agree on something? LOL
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Thanks for the help. I actually enjoy detailing the car, but not when its below 32 degrees and snowing. I'm just trying to come up with a plan of action for the winter. Its approaching quickly. I'm dreading to see what the car is going to look like after the winter. In the city where I live salt is used exclusivley, Occasionally during the winter I go upstate to the Catskills where sand is used on the roads.

It there anythign else I should do other that try washing it when weather permits during the winter?
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Thanks for the help. I actually enjoy detailing the car, but not when its below 32 degrees and snowing. I'm just trying to come up with a plan of action for the winter. Its approaching quickly. I'm dreading to see what the car is going to look like after the winter. In the city where I live salt is used exclusivley, Occasionally during the winter I go upstate to the Catskills where sand is used on the roads.

It there anythign else I should do other that try washing it when weather permits during the winter?
To get the longest life out of your carnauba, stick with a soap that won't strip wax off. I haven't done extensive testing, but it appears that carnaubas are more sensitive to soaps than synthetics. I only have one customer that complains that my wax doesn't last very long (like one or two weeks) and he exclusively uses an automatic car wash. He said that the synthetic he was using held up much better. I suspect that the soap in that car wash is not very wax-friendly.

I haven't found a soap I'm really happy with yet. My truck is garaged and is mostly just 'dusty' when I wash it, so I recently started using baby shampoo on it and it seems to be working well. Other products that 'claim' they don't strip wax off were not doing so well. However, I'm not sure how well baby shampoo would do on a very dirty vehicle.
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OCDetails...did we just agree on something? LOL

Hmmmm..... Isn't that like the seventh sign or something? Should I be worried? lol
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Thanks for the reply I used Mother's carnuba wax, paste
With most any wax, even if you're talking the Pure Carnauba Wax, the law of diminishing returns really kicks-in after the 2nd layer of wax.

In other words, at most do a second layer and stop there.

Or if you like, just use a nice spray wax after every wash.
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