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Old 04-17-2008, 09:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Optimum No Rinse - First Impression

I washed the Camry with Optimum No Rinse for the first time today. I haven't seen ONR discussed on this forum, and wanted to share my impressions.

If you're not familiar with ONR, here's a link for info. Essentially, it's a car wash that's formulated to allow you to bucket wash your car without rinsing.

http://autogeek.net/opnoriwash12.html

Why ONR? I only have shade in my driveway REALLY early in the morning and REALLY late in the day. This limits my "traditional" car wash opportunities. I wanted to try it because of the possibility of washing in my garage.

The Camry was averagely dirty. No "major" accumulation, but visible "splash" on the lower panels from driving on wet roads, film on the rest of the car where dust had been rained on and dried, and visible brake dust film on the wheels up close.

I mixed 4 gallons of wash (probably didn't need that much) using 2oz or ONR. I washed the painted surfaces with a sheepskin mit and dried with a high quality waffle weave microfiber. I used Some lower grade MFs for the other suraces.

The car came spotlessly clean with no marring/swirling that I was able to detect in full sunlight, and had a nice sheen like it had just been QDd. After washing and drying thoroughly, I was unable to detect ANY dirt on my drying towel.

Some Pros
You can wash any time day or night in your garage.

You can supposedly wash in full sunlight since you're washing and drying one panel at a time, but I haven't tried that yet.

Since you're doing a section at a time, interrupts don't matter. You can walk away and come back later if you need to with no worries about water spots, etc.

You only use the water that's in your bucket.

No hose to get out, put away, drag around, etc.

No overspray. You could wash right next to another car if need be without getting it wet.

Perfect for people that can't do a traditional wash, i.e. apartment or dorm dwellers that don't have easy access to a hose, etc.


Cons
Don't know of any yet.

It seems pricey when you first look at it, but I got mine when Autogeek was having a sale AND free shipping. You only use one ounce per 2 gallons so based on the price I paid, I used less than 60 cents worth to wash my car.

For those wondering about the mess in the garage, I got less water on the floor than I expected and it dried pretty quickly. I have a big floor squeegee that I would have used had I wanted to dry it faster, but it wasn't really necessary.

Summary
First impression is good. It allowed me to wash my car at a time of day when I normally couldn't. It was quick, easy, and did a good job. It was less hassle than a normal wash 'cause I didn't have to drag out the hose or put it away, etc.

I'm not convinced yet that I'd want to use it if the car was REALLY dirty, but apparently people do. I've seen some online videos and pics where people used it on some pretty trashed cars. I'll have to work my way up to that

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Old 04-17-2008, 06:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What color is your Camry? This is in reference to the detectability of marring, of course.
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Post a couple pics after you wash you car some more, that way we can see if theres any small scratches, and what not.
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What color is your Camry? This is in reference to the detectability of marring, of course.
It's Toyota paint code 3k4. I've seen various names for it. Red Pearl Clearcoat. Red Mica Metallic. Sunfire Red Pearl. Anyway, it's the dark red/maroon color they used in '95.


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thats a beautiful clean car.

Good Job, or should I say good job ONR!!!
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Old 04-18-2008, 09:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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thats a beautiful clean car.

Good Job, or should I say good job ONR!!!
Thanks, I appreciate the compliment. I'm pretty proud of her.

However, that shot is not post ONR. That shot is from a couple of weeks ago. It was shortly after a traditional wash with Meguiars NXT Car wash. Kind of an odd shot, but it was the "before" shot in a before and after pair showing my S2000 antenna conversion in this thread.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t240036.html

I'll post up a couple of full body pics after my next ONR wash
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UK very nice

very nice car eddie.

I'm almost convinced to use ONR on my cars. After doing research on various forums, ONR seems safe to use on slightly dirty cars. And from what people say, it's a real time saver. That would be the biggest thing for me, convenience. There's not a lot of rain where I live, and I like to wash the cars at least once a week. Many times, I feel like i'm going through the conventional wash on a car that really isn't THAT dirty. (but I do it anyway, cause I love a freshly cleaned and immaculate car) Thus, when hearing about ONR, it just clicked that this is what i'm going to try. So thanks for the further confirmation eddie. I know I can trust your opinions after seeing your posts and pics.

Some cons that I read about:

ONR makes the wash mitt not "release" the dirt as easily, so I would suggest use a two bucket method with grit guard in the rinse bucket.

When in doubt about using it on a really dirty car, i would just err on the safe side and use a conventional wash method. Save the ONR for the "slightly dirty" washes.


I just started using Zaino Z2, i hope ONR is compatible with this.

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very nice car eddie.

I'm almost convinced to use ONR on my cars. After doing research on various forums, ONR seems safe to use on slightly dirty cars. And from what people say, it's a real time saver. That would be the biggest thing for me, convenience. There's not a lot of rain where I live, and I like to wash the cars at least once a week. Many times, I feel like i'm going through the conventional wash on a car that really isn't THAT dirty. (but I do it anyway, cause I love a freshly cleaned and immaculate car) Thus, when hearing about ONR, it just clicked that this is what i'm going to try. So thanks for the further confirmation eddie. I know I can trust your opinions after seeing your posts and pics.

Some cons that I read about:

ONR makes the wash mitt not "release" the dirt as easily, so I would suggest use a two bucket method with grit guard in the rinse bucket.

When in doubt about using it on a really dirty car, i would just err on the safe side and use a conventional wash method. Save the ONR for the "slightly dirty" washes.


I just started using Zaino Z2, i hope ONR is compatible with this.

ALOHA from Hawaii guys!
Spamlova,

I'd say it's absolutely safe to use on slightly dirty cars, and as I said, I've seen some photos and videos on autopia.org and elsewhere showing people using it on absolutlely filthy cars and having great results. I'm still not convinced I'd want to use it when my car is REALLY dirty, but we'll see after I get more used to using it.

As with any detailing process, proper media and technique are essential. I'm sure you CAN scratch your paint using ONR just like you can scratch it doing a conventional wash with the wrong media or technique.

And yes, I'd say it's a time saver since I didn't have to drag the hose out and put it away, didn't have to spend time rinsing, etc. I think it would be interesting to do a start to finish timing comparison on conventional vs. ONR to see. May do that sometime.

If you haven't been to autopia.org, you may want to do some searches there. There are a bunch of ONR users on that forum, and that's where I became convinced to try it.

Good luck. Post up some pics when you try it

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Spamlova,

I'd say it's absolutely safe to use on slightly dirty cars, and as I said, I've seen some photos and videos on autopia.org and elsewhere showing people using it on absolutlely filthy cars and having great results. I'm still not convinced I'd want to use it when my car is REALLY dirty, but we'll see after I get more used to using it.

As with any detailing process, proper media and technique are essential. I'm sure you CAN scratch your paint using ONR just like you can scratch it doing a conventional wash with the wrong media or technique.

And yes, I'd say it's a time saver since I didn't have to drag the hose out and put it away, didn't have to spend time rinsing, etc. I think it would be interesting to do a start to finish timing comparison on conventional vs. ONR to see. May do that sometime.

If you haven't been to autopia.org, you may want to do some searches there. There are a bunch of ONR users on that forum, and that's where I became convinced to try it.

Good luck. Post up some pics when you try it
Autopia is primarily where I did most of my research. Heard about it on pakshak.com. Hawaii is slightly different because of the red dirt here, when it rains, your car gets really dirty. But at least we dont have the road salt like you guys over there.

I just ordered my ONR from pakshak.com, they have really good prices and EXCELLENT customer service, plus they are local. I ordered the gallon size because of the good reviews. Will post when I try it.

If anyone else uses the Zaino Z2pro and ONR combination please let me know how compatible they are.

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