Silly question I'm sure, but I was looking over my car care supplies the other day and noticed I have about 2/3 - 3/4 of a bottle of Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax (the original, not 2.0). Anyone know what changed between the original and 2.0, or know why I should not use what I have left? Its not that the stuff is that expensive, but if I don't have to run out and buy more wax right away I'd rather use up what I have.
Would very much like to know this myself. I haven't heard this one before and I typically store this type of stuff in my garage which definitely gets below freezing for most of winter.
(And as us in the northern US along with our Canadian members know winter can last from late October until about this time of the year. )
I am not a chemist, but a rep from a paint company once told me that paints, waxes, etc should never be allowed to freeze. He said it alters their chemical nature. He said you can still use the products, but the results will not be what they are supposed to be. Can you notice it when you apply it? I don't know. But I have used this "no freeze" rule for years following my conversation with this guy. Perhaps a chemist can respond to this and elaborate.
I went to ask.com for frozen wax. Some of the responses I got were:
- A good quality wax has no more than a true 2 yr usable life, according to my previous employer; Turtle Wax. With that said - if it ever freezes... it's garbage.
- Waxes tend to goo up if they freeze - it's not a brand specific thing. I personally would never use and wax, polish, sealant, etc after it has been frozen.
- Personally I'd pitch it, especially if the climate has dipped below 30 degrees Celsius in your garage. Not worth the risk in screwing up your paint job...
I don't know the chemical reason for this, but it is something I always took for granted.
Well that's just great...one more thing I have to try to store in the house over the winter!
Oh well, I guess its a good excuse for the wife as to why I need to get new wax. While we're at it I'll have to get some other new supplies that shouldn't have frozen over the winter.
Well that's just great...one more thing I have to try to store in the house over the winter!
Oh well, I guess its a good excuse for the wife as to why I need to get new wax. While we're at it I'll have to get some other new supplies that shouldn't have frozen over the winter.
I live in the NE. Where winter temps drop below 0 degrees. I keep all of my car detailing stuff in a closet in the house where it is heated. My garage is not heated and one winter my liquid wax froze as hard as ice. So now I put my all of my stuff in a box and store it during the winter.
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Freezing NXT doesn't do squat for me. When I moved on to something better than that stuff I stuck it in my freezer for a week to "test" the claims. I took it out, let it thaw to room temperature and promptly applied it to a junk trunk in the backyard. It stayed completely the same hardness/texture prior to freezer treatment and lasted just as long. Eventually I got so fed up with a tin I'll never use again that I set fire to the wax. It made for about 5 hours of solid burning.
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Freezing NXT doesn't do squat for me. When I moved on to something better than that stuff I stuck it in my freezer for a week to "test" the claims. I took it out, let it thaw to room temperature and promptly applied it to a junk trunk in the backyard. It stayed completely the same hardness/texture prior to freezer treatment and lasted just as long. Eventually I got so fed up with a tin I'll never use again that I set fire to the wax. It made for about 5 hours of solid burning.
Isaac, this would be the liquid variety although I'm not sure if that would really make a difference. What, if anything, would you recommend that I can most likely pick up in the local Autozone, Advance Auto, Wal*Mart, etc? I'm all for spending a little more time and money up front to have a nicer looking wash/wax than the local car wash will provide, but I don't really have the time, patience, or budget to try a bunch of different waxes from autopia or something similar. I tend to stick with the Meguiar's products because I've never had a problem with any of them and they seem to do a good job IMO.
Does anyone foresee any problems with the car wash soap freezing since that's been stored in the same area as the wax?
Also, I noticed when I was quickly looking through the auto parts store today that the paste waxes in a tin typically contain less for the same price as the liquid waxes of the same variety - is it just that the paste is denser and therefore the same amount takes up less space/weight, or does one last longer than the other? I've never used a paste wax but from what I've been reading it's simple enough to use and if it's more economical I'd be willing to give it a shot especially when the smaller packaging will be easier to store indoors in the winter.
Isaac, this would be the liquid variety although I'm not sure if that would really make a difference. What, if anything, would you recommend that I can most likely pick up in the local Autozone, Advance Auto, Wal*Mart, etc? I'm all for spending a little more time and money up front to have a nicer looking wash/wax than the local car wash will provide, but I don't really have the time, patience, or budget to try a bunch of different waxes from autopia or something similar. I tend to stick with the Meguiar's products because I've never had a problem with any of them and they seem to do a good job IMO.
Does anyone foresee any problems with the car wash soap freezing since that's been stored in the same area as the wax?
Also, I noticed when I was quickly looking through the auto parts store today that the paste waxes in a tin typically contain less for the same price as the liquid waxes of the same variety - is it just that the paste is denser and therefore the same amount takes up less space/weight, or does one last longer than the other? I've never used a paste wax but from what I've been reading it's simple enough to use and if it's more economical I'd be willing to give it a shot especially when the smaller packaging will be easier to store indoors in the winter.
Hmm, I haven't set fire to that one yet...
The paste lasts longer than liquid. More solvents than solute in the liquid is usually the case. I would buy, assuming you can find it, Collinite 845 or 476. They cost less than NXT, last 3 times as long, and look almost as good. They have the warm glow of a nuba but no darkening affects of NXT, which is fine by me. If you have a Harbor Freight by you or a boating store, chances are that you'll find it there.
Car Wash soap is finicky because some have problems and some don't. I cant say for sure because I keep all my soap since I have a foam cannon so I haven't stuck any in the freezer yet lol
I find that I use less product with a paste than liquid
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So now I put my all of my stuff in a box and store it during the winter.
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