just a thought...

[WVcamry3sfe]

I'm just posting this because I haven't seen many threads on this particular subject, and I just wanted to know a bit more about this.

I am thinking of super charging my camry. And yes I know a 3sgte would be better, but it'd be interesting to see about super charging my current engine. I've already done exhaust work on my car, and turbo charging it would mean doing MORE exhaust work, which I don't really want to do... its EXHAUSTING! So my only way of increasing HP through forced induction of air would of course be the super charger!

Now I know that I can get an engine rebuild kit to accomodate added HP. But I am wondering the following:

how much PSI of boost do you think the engine would be able to handle stock?
how would the stock ECU react to all the extra air?
would my current fuel injectors be able to handle small loads of boost?

I'm thinkin I'd want to run about 4-5 PSI, how much HP would that give me?

[HomeGrown]

I'm not familiar enough with the 3S-FE, but in the realm of 4-5 PSI, any bone stock engine should be able to handle that. I boosted a bone stock 2.2L in an S-10 pickup to 10 psi with no problem. Only used an FMU for fuel management. Long term goal was to build an engine for boost, but my point is that even bone stock with 115k miles, it did fine. I think a *rough* rule of thumb is to figure on 10 hp per 1 lb. of boost. Only issue with a supercharger vs. a turbo is that you're using power from the engine to run the blower. A turbo is essentially free boost.

I think that's why turbos are so widely used on small engines as opposed to superchargers but they both definately have their pros and cons. After doing a turbo project, I can think of a lot more "cons" for a turbo right offhand than I can for a supercharger.

[Tommy]

you're gonna spend 2x as much workin on supercharger than you would a turbo, and either way with a 3SFE, get past 4-5psi and I give it a month before it blows up in your face. Dont even bother if its an automatic, that tranny is a pos, and will probably blow up before the engine.

Although, if you do it right, and can find the parts - Id LOVE to see a rippmodds 5SFE supercharger modified to fit a gen2, definate first. trick is they dont make them anymore.

[WVcamry3sfe]

I just looked at the rippmods site. looks like that super charger would be cool to get it into a 2nd gen. I'll just have to be on the look out to see when they'll make some more of those kits. From my understanding they'll make discontinued kits from time to time. I also found this... http://www.importperformanceparts.ne...ek-toyota.html
for engine rebuild kit... so I'm thinkin that if I built this engine up and super charged it after the rebuild it would be alright handling the added power, eh? these guys here say the kits are good for a wide range of HP increases up to 1000 HP... but of course no 3sfze would be anywhere near that. i think 220 HP out of a 3sfze would probably be my goal.

and yah, i've got the a140e tranny right now in my car. but i hope to get a manual trans in it. do you know what kind of trans would work well for me? Im thinkin a celica trans from a celica that runs the 3sgte but with just fwd. dont have an awd camry. a tranny number that i could go off of would be good. I know the a140e is a POS... i had it rebuilt this past summer cause it died on me, and i needed the car to take me to school this year

[Tommy]

yikes...first learn about the car

1: its a 3SFE
2: You could use a AWD tranny, but that would be dumb...Celica GTS/MR2/V6 Camry 5spd is the best bet
3: 220hp out of a 3SFE isnt gonna happen with 4-5psi, youll need at least 15psi for that

[88 LE]

Originally Posted by WVcamry3sfe

do you know what kind of trans would work well for me? Im thinkin a celica trans from a celica that runs the 3sgte but with just fwd.

Manual tranny from a gen 2 I4 or V6.

E153 from a V6 Camry (gen 3+) or V6 Solara. The later ones have dual cone synchros.

E153 from a MR2 Turbo. The gear ratios are different vs. E153 from Camry or Solara. Needs some modifications to work in FWD application. See link below for the modifications.

http://www.geocities.com/zegoat2000/e1531.html




Tranny from a Celica All Trac/GT4 will work, but it needs to be modified. Charlie (white90dx) is using this tranny with his 3S-GTE swap.

[WVcamry3sfe]

Originally Posted by Tommy

yikes...first learn about the car

1: its a 3SFE
2: You could use a AWD tranny, but that would be dumb...Celica GTS/MR2/V6 Camry 5spd is the best bet
3: 220hp out of a 3SFE isnt gonna happen with 4-5psi, youll need at least 15psi for that

no no, i wasnt suggesting 220 off 4-5psi i was meaning to say after i built the engine up to handle more than 5 psi...

but anywhays... i know about my car and i know its a 3sfe :-P but after super charging it would be a 3sfze of course.

[Tommy]

If you can do it and find a charger that could give you the extra 100hp you're wanting, I say go for it. Youll end up spending probably 10k on it, but damned if it wont be an original.

[HomeGrown]

10k? I GOTTA see a breakdown on this.

[Tommy]

^just look at any of the guys who do build ups on Camry's, any generation. If you want that much power out of an engine designed for half that, then you have to do some serious work.