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Old 11-05-2006, 09:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2nd Generation 1989 Camry Shift issue

Well, I just fixed an Idle issue with my Camry I just got. But now I have found a new issue, It does not want to shift down when I step on the gas, but manuel shifts ok. I checked the cable and it looks to be set properly. What I need to know is if the Trottle possition sensor can affect the shifting? Or could it be a shifting modual of somekind? The engine revs great when in park, But it seams a little doggish in drive, that is why I was thinking still some throttle body issues after the second cleaning. The car only has 93,495 miles on it and I got it from my friends mom so I know it is correct, so I could not see it being the transmission its self.

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bad news for ya, but the gen2 camry auto transmission is a POS. I know of 4 people, including myself that have had their auto transmission go out, usually between 100k-140k miles

not saying that the transmission is the problem, but you cant dismiss it. Pick up a haynes manual and its got a testing procedure for the TPS.
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First, if the car has A140L (mechanical governor) type transmission, there is no need to check TPS. On ECT type transmission, pull out the codes first.
The main reason, why Camry transaxles (for 4 cyl.) are damaged is the empty differential (drained by mistake).
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I pulled the code and the only one that came up before was a 41 (TPS) but that was from me disconecting it. after a clear there were none. How can I tell by looking at it what trans I have?
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First, if the car has A140L (mechanical governor) type transmission, there is no need to check TPS. On ECT type transmission, pull out the codes first.
The main reason, why Camry transaxles (for 4 cyl.) are damaged is the empty differential (drained by mistake).
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autos have a separate case for the differential and if you drain both but think you need to add new atf fluid in only one fill hole, then you will have an empty differential....they need fluid that can only be added from underneath!
Manual Camrys dont have the differential separate from the transaxle........for us, it's only one place you add fluid, but unfortunately it's a pain in the ass to get to!
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that is great information to know about the trans, do to the fact I will be doing a service on it this week, I was unaware of the seperation of the diffrential on camrys.
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Was the O/D OFF indicator light ever blinking by itself during driving?
If you have pwr/normal pushbutton near emergency belt release lever on console and pwr/norm indicator lights below the letters on the dash gear pos. indicator, the car has ECT. (A140e).

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well it has ect, and the light does not blink.
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If I am understanding your original post correctly, the kick down feature is not working. With engine off, have someone to floor the gas pedal while watching the kick- down (tv) cable. The mark must be within 1 mm from the boot end. Opening throttle by hand may give false information, due to possible slack in accelerator cable/pedal.
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good point, did not think about that.
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ok, I did the trans service today, and the Trans will still not shift down, unless you do it manuelly. I was wanting to know if it may be the kick down Solenoid that is next to the kick down cable, and if so what is the best way to test it? Need some help on this one sucks to drive it like a stick!!

P.S. I still Have a Code 41 and Now a Code 4, what is code 4?

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2nd Generation

I just found a really good PDF file online that goes through about everything on my car. It tell me that my down shift problem is most likely in the speed sensor circuit, and tell me how to test this circuit. (could be the vehicle speed sensor, Combination Meter, ECM, or Harness)

Where is the combination meter located at?


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well, I tested the some pin out voltages on the ECM, and found that the vehicle speed sensor circet was reading 12 volts, and it said it was suppose to be 4-6 volts. Also the violet wire to the ect ecm only had .004 volts, and was suppose to have 10- 14 volts. So I got an ECM off of EBay, for 26 Dollars that should be here this week.

My new Question is has anyone had this problem with there car and did a new ECM fix it?

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well, ECM did not fix the problem with the down shift. Does anyone have any other ideas on the subject? I am about to junk out the car if I don't get it fixed soon, wife is on my case. I just would hate to do that to a camry with only 93000 miles on it that runs great. I will take any ideas on the subject.

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seems to be a tranny and ecu problem..

my cousins 90 accord ex Auto is doing the same problem. it wont downshift when slowing down to accelerate.
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