Noob question - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums


» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
» Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums > Toyota Passenger and Sports Car Forums > Camry and Solara Forum > 1st & 2nd Generation (1983–1986 & 1987-1991)

1st & 2nd Generation (1983–1986 & 1987-1991) Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 1983-1986 & 1987-1991. Topics of discussion range from fuel economy, safety, modifications, performance all involving America's favorite family car, the Toyota Camry.

ToyotaNation.com is the premier Toyota Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-04-2006, 08:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
New TN User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Jose
Posts: 31
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View S2k-Takara's Photo Gallery
Noob question

How easy is it to swap in a 92-95 Camry engine? will I have to change the engine mounts or tranny?

Thanks in advance guys
S2k-Takara is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-04-2006, 10:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
Ferrat
 
Ferrat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 178
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Ferrat's Photo Gallery
Hey,

Just to warn you, people are gonna stay screaming search

But coz you are new, i will just say that there is a red button that can search through topics.

Now onto your question, i'm gathering you have either a gen 1 or gen 2 camry, you need to specify, also what engine 4 cyl or 6 cyl? Then we can help you even more

If you have a gen 2, and its 4cyl then a 3sgte swap is what you should be looking at. Whitedx90 is doing one atm. The engine's from a st165/st185/st205 Celica GT4 or MR2 Turbo. Basically a straight drop in. But you will need a custom wiring harness. Search on here for more info (there is tons), google it. Tons of info, and research is good lol, remember your school training.

If you have the 6 cyl, then an engine swap will be harder, there isn't really a straight swap as far as i know. Talk to Jetspeed, he has a gen 2 6cyl, and knows more about that then anyone i know.

Don't worry about engines from the 92-95 camrys, there barely more performing than what you have and you just can't justify the cost of a swap.

Hope that helps, i don't know much about gen 1's.

Cheers Matt
__________________
1989 Camry SV22 (RIP) Blown Motor

1988 Camry SV21

2001 Camry MCV20 V6 Touring
Ferrat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2006, 10:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
New TN User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Jose
Posts: 31
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View S2k-Takara's Photo Gallery
Hello

Thanks for the info

I do infact have a 1990 camry 4cyl auto

will I be able to use the MR2 engine...eventhough its manual?
S2k-Takara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2006, 10:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
Ferrat
 
Ferrat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 178
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Ferrat's Photo Gallery
Hey,

Well that helps a heap more. I'm not sure a auto will hold the power, research and look it up. Try to find a celica engine, you "can" use the MR2, just you will have to mod some things i have been told.

Look thorugh the posts, there will be one on a st205 celica GT4 swap there. Its a long one, you can't miss it. Thats the 3sgte engine i was talking about.

Cheers
Matt
__________________
1989 Camry SV22 (RIP) Blown Motor

1988 Camry SV21

2001 Camry MCV20 V6 Touring
Ferrat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2006, 10:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
Ferrat
 
Ferrat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 178
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Ferrat's Photo Gallery
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t144468.html
^^ that is the post in question.

Cheers
Matt
__________________
1989 Camry SV22 (RIP) Blown Motor

1988 Camry SV21

2001 Camry MCV20 V6 Touring
Ferrat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2006, 10:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
New TN User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Jose
Posts: 31
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View S2k-Takara's Photo Gallery
Hey Matt

So a 92+ engine will not work?


Thanks
Randy
S2k-Takara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2006, 10:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
Ferrat
 
Ferrat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 178
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Ferrat's Photo Gallery
Um

Anything will work, depends on money and budget.

For example you could swap out your 3sfe for a 5sfe from a 4 cyl 92+ camry. BUT you will spend a couple of grand on work for only 10-15 kw gain (hp for americans lol)

Or you can spend the same amount of money, and put in a 3sgte, and to put it basically double you kw's (hp), the choice is yours what you do.

Just do research, look up here and see what people have done, google it etc.

Cheers
Matt
__________________
1989 Camry SV22 (RIP) Blown Motor

1988 Camry SV21

2001 Camry MCV20 V6 Touring
Ferrat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2006, 03:16 AM   #8 (permalink)
New TN User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Jose
Posts: 31
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View S2k-Takara's Photo Gallery
what about a AWD conversion?
S2k-Takara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2006, 07:13 AM   #9 (permalink)
Going to rainforest, BRB
 
HomeGrown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Georgetown, KY
Posts: 1,545
Gameroom cash: $160385
Thanks: 27
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
Lifetime Supreme Member
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View HomeGrown's Photo Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by S2k-Takara
what about a AWD conversion?

__________________
2011 Regular Cab, 4x4 Auto, N-Fab step bars, Satoshi grille, OEM fog lights, Extang Trifecta cover (list growing, check back often!)
HomeGrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2006, 08:06 AM   #10 (permalink)
Ferrat
 
Ferrat's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 178
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Ferrat's Photo Gallery
Lol, if you want AWD, buy an AWD camry, if you can't get one import one.

I can't begin to tell you the differences between front wheel and all wheel.

Personally, i will only drive FWD.

Cheers
Matt
__________________
1989 Camry SV22 (RIP) Blown Motor

1988 Camry SV21

2001 Camry MCV20 V6 Touring
Ferrat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2006, 11:14 AM   #11 (permalink)
Going to rainforest, BRB
 
HomeGrown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Georgetown, KY
Posts: 1,545
Gameroom cash: $160385
Thanks: 27
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
Lifetime Supreme Member
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View HomeGrown's Photo Gallery
IMHO, it wouldn't be worth doing an AWD conversion. You'd spend a LOT of money and time to end up with what? A bastardized AWD Camry that's inferior to a factory-built Camry All-Trac.
__________________
2011 Regular Cab, 4x4 Auto, N-Fab step bars, Satoshi grille, OEM fog lights, Extang Trifecta cover (list growing, check back often!)
HomeGrown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2006, 11:52 AM   #12 (permalink)
Darkside Cut Me!!!
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Vaughan' Ontario
Posts: 1,908
Gameroom cash: $135123
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts
iTrader Score: 3 reviews
View Hajoca's Photo Gallery
Just for perspective... Is your current engine working fine? did it break?
If so look at the cost of the repair vs swap.

Or is it time for a rebuild, ie smoking alot, burnt rings...etc?

It now appears that you want more power. What is the condition of the rest of the car?
__________________
2004 RX330 Sport
2003 Cam I4 XLE
2000 Cam XLE Gold Edition V6
1998 CamCE I4 Super Commuter!
Hajoca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2006, 12:04 PM   #13 (permalink)
New TN User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Jose
Posts: 31
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View S2k-Takara's Photo Gallery
Engine is smoking and leaking oil from the cam seal ( I think)

Im only looking for a bit more power, thats why I am concerned with how much trouble it will be.

Ideally for this car I would have a 2005 Camry engine in it, and get 30+ mpg and have 150+hp

If I want to go fast I have a S2000 I take to open track days


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hajoca
Just for perspective... Is your current engine working fine? did it break?
If so look at the cost of the repair vs swap.

Or is it time for a rebuild, ie smoking alot, burnt rings...etc?

It now appears that you want more power. What is the condition of the rest of the car?
S2k-Takara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2006, 12:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
3s-gte in a Camry?!?
 
white90dx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 4,098
Gameroom cash: $305775
Thanks: 1
Thanked 139 Times in 139 Posts
iTrader Score: 5 reviews
View white90dx's Photo Gallery
It sounds like you should get rid of your current Camry and buy a 4-cylinder 5-speed gen2...

Its as fast as a V6 auto and will get you low 30's MPG in mixed driving (if its still in good shape).

A motor swap is expensive and a huge pain if you only want decent performance and good mileage. (and your mileage WILL get worse after a swap, trust me)

-Charlie
__________________
2003 Impreza WRX Wagon 5spd - 2.2L stroker + other goodies
1989 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE 5spd - SV25/ST205 hybrid
1990 Camry 3S-GTE 5spd - parted out / junked
1990 Camry DX 3S-FE 5spd - The original white90dx; gone but not forgotten
white90dx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2006, 12:45 PM   #15 (permalink)
New TN User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: San Jose
Posts: 31
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View S2k-Takara's Photo Gallery
The problem is my wife is emotionally attatched to this car and will not let me sell it.

It aslo only has 92,000 miles on it.

So your saying I could not simply take a engine with 20-30hp more and swap it in without changing transmission and axles?

Thanks
Randy

Quote:
Originally Posted by white90dx
It sounds like you should get rid of your current Camry and buy a 4-cylinder 5-speed gen2...

Its as fast as a V6 auto and will get you low 30's MPG in mixed driving (if its still in good shape).

A motor swap is expensive and a huge pain if you only want decent performance and good mileage. (and your mileage WILL get worse after a swap, trust me)

-Charlie
S2k-Takara is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums > Toyota Passenger and Sports Car Forums > Camry and Solara Forum > 1st & 2nd Generation (1983–1986 & 1987-1991)

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Noob question does my echo have a timing belt or timing chain? tousi Yaris, Vitz and Echo Forum 1 09-02-2006 01:36 PM
noob question O2 sensor maggotdecay General Discussion 2 02-05-2005 08:59 PM
Noob Question: 1995 camry tail lights camryBabe 3rd & 4th Generation (1992–1996 & 1997–2001) 3 02-02-2005 05:56 PM
Another Noob Question Doug96 Camry & Solara Lounge 6 09-18-2003 09:50 PM
Noob Question RE: Cat-Back Exhaust Chris Corolla S General Discussion 22 09-13-2003 05:47 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:01 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
ToyotaNation.com is an independent Toyota/Lexus enthusiast website. ToyotaNation.com is not sponsored by or in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc. The Toyota, Lexus and Scion names and logos are trademarks owned by Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc.