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Old 01-14-2007, 03:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2nd Generation Planning an engine swap...

I want to put either a 3SGTE or a 3SGE into my 90, but, i'm not sure about a couple things.

First, how much should I pay for a shop to do the swap? I'm not skilled enough to do it myself.

Since i'm in California, what would they say to me doing said swap? Whould it even be legal?

Thanks much for the help.
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Old 01-14-2007, 12:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well... looking at what it ran Allen (UfoZ), you're looking in the ballpark of at least $6000. I think there is a way to make the ST205 3SGTE legal in Cali.

For $6000, there's much better and easier alternatives. You could buy an LT1 F-Body or a higher-mileage LS1 F-Body and just call it a day. Theres tons of cars that I would rather have than a Gen 2 Camry, but in the end, the cost of the swap isn't worth it unless it's done yourself.
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^haha, allen spent WAY more than that. Charlie just did his and he did all the work him self, and the last tally was over $6k, allen didnt do the work himself.
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^haha, allen spent WAY more than that. Charlie just did his and he did all the work him self, and the last tally was over $6k, allen didnt do the work himself.
Actually, now that I think about it, didn't it cost Allen over $10k for his swap?
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First, how much should I pay for a shop to do the swap? I'm not skilled enough to do it myself.
A simple pull out and drop in swap is around $500 - $600. Expect to pay alot more then that with a 3S-GE/GTE swap as its not a simple pull out and drop in swap.

I see that your from Sacramento, theres only 1 shop (Motorsport Dynamics) in Sacto that I would trust doing that kind of work.

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Since i'm in California, what would they say to me doing said swap? Whould it even be legal?
I believe the engine your swapping in has to the same year as your car or newer. The engine also has to have all the original smog equipment that came with it.

Try looking on dmv.ca.gov and http://www.arb.ca.gov/homepage.htm
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For $6000, there's much better and easier alternatives. You could buy an LT1 F-Body or a higher-mileage LS1 F-Body and just call it a day. Theres tons of cars that I would rather have than a Gen 2 Camry, but in the end, the cost of the swap isn't worth it unless it's done yourself.
That was my original semi-long term car plan, to get either a lower milage C4 Corvette or a '04 350Z, and keep it stock - modding isn't a big thing with me. But, I thought to myself, "I could either have a car that everyone's got, or I can make mine original." As far as I know, the 3SFE can't be pushed too much farther than it is when stock (especially mine) and the 3SGE can. Basically, my goal isn't to make my gen 2 fastest, but just faster than it is.

Hrm, if it's going to cost as much as buying myself aother car, i'll have to put some more thought into it. Is there a noticible power difference between a stock Camry with a 3SFE and a Camry with a 3SGE?
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Youll spend several thousands of dollars on a GE swap, and gain 50-60hp if you get a decent GE. GTE is gonna be pretty quick, but will cost even more.

Go buy an MR2
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