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Old 01-28-2007, 09:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Russian 2nd gen camry? тойота камри???

anyone here know about camry's in russia? I think that there were produced with a 4sfe engine? I'm curious to know if anyone knows much about this. I found a picture on the web which I believe is a '89 toyota camry that was made for the russian motor market. It has a different looking grill and front bumper... I think it looks more stylish than the american car's stuff. I would like to find a way to get them. It looks like this camry happened to have been modified tho, the headlights look like they have some custom styling done, as well as hood pins/clips on it.


anyhow, here it is:
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Old 01-29-2007, 06:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Looks a lot like the Japanese Camry to me.

I'm not sure of the 4SFE, but I know that there were versions of Gen 2's in foreign markets with a 1.8L engine, a 3SF non-EFI, and a 3SGE.
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It kinda looks like a Cressida hit and Avalon...not bad looking, though.

The Russians also got a Japanese-spec Gen3 version of the Camry (probably because it was so simple to ship them a short hopacross the pond from Japan to Russia).
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Don't like the headlamp on the gen 3 at all.
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The Russinas are getting their Camrys from Europe and Japan.
However, the Russian government is trying to put a ban on the right hand drive cars.
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I seem to remember that one of the ways they're overcoming the r/h drive problem is by opening plants in Russia to build Camrys...anyone else remember that tidbit?

And no, the headlamp assembly on the Gen3's is crap...doesn't suit the rest of the body style at all.
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very interesting. I always think that it's interesting to compare different countries versions of cars that 1.8 litre mentioned that was offered in some areas... I think that was the 4sfe. although I'm no expert on foreign market cars... hence my asking about it. I'm just curious about it because on wikipedia if you look at the article for the S series engines... there is a place on the chart for a 4sfe, but there is no information written about it. One time I did a google image search for a 4sfe... and it brought up a picture that looked like the 3sfe engine... but all the writing on the webpage was in russian.


well at any rate, does anyone know where a good place to look for that bumper would be? since I wrecked mine recently, and need to replace the bumper and grill... might as well find a way to get the bumper and grill that looks like that one in the picture for when i repair my camry's body.

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i have that bumper but i haven't slapped it on the car yet
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In order to comply with the US bumper standards most japanese imports were fitted in 80 with these 5 mph bumpers.
Interesting enough, when my 79 Supra was rear-ended, the bumper survived but the whole rear of the car was bent and twisted.
From the technical stand point, using 2nd gen. Camry on Russian roads plus substandard fuel and oil quality will give good durability tests to the car.
Another sourse for durability test here in the US is either the owner who skips the service or the stupid mechanic who fixes car with prehistoric tools and skills.

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i have that bumper but i haven't slapped it on the car yet

where did you get that? how much money was it? are those things hard to find?
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i got it from japan it was fairly cheap 100$ but the shipping is really really expensive.. along with the hood/fenders/grill/headlights
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was there a specific vendor? webpage maybe? just curious.
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Another sourse for durability test here in the US is either the owner who skips the service or the stupid mechanic who fixes car with prehistoric tools and skills.
It's been about twenty years since I have seen anything that even approaches "prehistoric tools and skills." Maybe that's because most shops in my area demand ASE certification, and because Pennsylvania has a pretty comprehensive emissions law. I know that California is also very stringent on technical issues, and is perhaps the most retentive state when it comes to emissions. In fact, I've travelled to thirty-five states and seven countries and found none that was particularly backward or "prehistoric."

So, I'm curious. Where in the US is the "stupid mechanic" with "prehistoric tools and skills" to be found?
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Hey, I'm not trying to jump on the guy, but it seemed like an odd thing to say in 2007, since the "points, plugs, and condenser" mechanics have all retired.

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