performace chip for 3sfe camry ( real ones not ebay crap) - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

africanmarty · 01-31-2007, 12:25 AM

found a site that has a performace chip for the 3sfe 87 -91 camry it claims :

"In standard form, the Camry 2.0 produces 88 kW and 171 Nm. Powerchip has a range of chips to suit your car, which can increase it's power to between 95 kW and 100 kW, and it's torque to between 184 Nm and 193 Nm.The price of the Powerchip for your car ranges from AUD $690.00 to AUD $890.00"

and

"Your Toyota Camry 2.0 uses an ECU which features an embedded processor rather than a normal chip or EPROM which means that your car does not use a chip that can be modified. The Powerchip upgrade for your car is an additional computer which alters the ignition timing of the vehicle in the same way as a normal chip style upgrade. Installation takes about 1 hour and can be performed by a Powerchip Authorised Fitter."

Think is bullsh*t ? i mean 12kw for sub AUD$900 bucks is pretty good.

regards Marty.

ref : http://www.powerchipgroup.com/index.asp

Tommy · 01-31-2007, 12:42 AM

Oh its hella bull shit - those $10 ones on ebay do the exact same thing- they trick the computer into thinking the car is cold, so it advances the timing and richens the mixture - only difference is about $890.

africanmarty · 01-31-2007, 04:18 AM

do you think any of these chips/piggy back 'could' raise any kw/hp in a 3sfe ?

Zandro · 01-31-2007, 05:14 PM

Hell i got a complete JDM 3S-FE with ECU for approx 300 of your AUD$, To answer your question NO it would burn to rich and gunk up your engine with carbon over time. You would have to go for a stand alone engine management system like Megasquirt or something like that and have the knowledge to program it. i just did the swap, much easier and cheaper.
now running 94+ kw and 180Nm+ give or take.

DoubleEdgedWomb · 01-31-2007, 08:49 PM

It's far more likely to damage your engine/ECU than to do anything worthwhile.

JetspeedCamry · 02-01-2007, 12:11 AM

Complete and utter bullshit guys, get your facts straight before slandering a good product.

africanmarty · 02-01-2007, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JetspeedCamry

Complete and utter bullshit guys, get your facts straight before slandering a good product.

Hey jet speed i am getting some headers for my 3sfe on monday maybe a 2 /2.25 inch exhaust havent decided yet. but as you have headers, exhaust and intake mods i was just wondering if you noticed any gians with this chip ? any dyno results ? how much did your cost ? and whats you current HP/Kw specs ? regards Marty.

Tommy · 02-01-2007, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JetspeedCamry

Complete and utter bullshit guys, get your facts straight before slandering a good product.

who says its a good product? the discription says it does the exact same thing as the $5 chips on ebay. all it does is alter the air intake temp and trick the car into running rich. a 50cent resistor on the sensor would do the exact same thing.

JetspeedCamry · 02-01-2007, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommy

who says its a good product? the discription says it does the exact same thing as the $5 chips on ebay. all it does is alter the air intake temp and trick the car into running rich. a 50cent resistor on the sensor would do the exact same thing.

Exactly my point mate...how about understanding the product more and then furthering your knowledge with PRACTICAL experience with one, then maybe you'd understand. Until you have both of those, what your saying isn't worth a grain of salt!

JetspeedCamry · 02-01-2007, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by africanmarty

Hey jet speed i am getting some headers for my 3sfe on monday maybe a 2 /2.25 inch exhaust havent decided yet. but as you have headers, exhaust and intake mods i was just wondering if you noticed any gians with this chip ? any dyno results ? how much did your cost ? and whats you current HP/Kw specs ? regards Marty.

Hey Marty, as per my PM to you...I have the Gold98 Chip installed. For your information, this chip DOES NOT change anything to do with intake temps or resistor bullshit. It is an Ignition/Timing mapping computer. The gains i have got from it are fantastic and highly recommend it. Most of my gains where made down below 3000RPM, where torque is now very impressive...and makes for very crisp response on a good night. No dyno or power figures .. i dont typically take my car out for a thrashing to see what its doing...moreso just go by feel of the pants...and yes, i can highly recommend it. Perhpas we can meet up at some stage and i can show you exactly what i mean, as i'm near to you. Cheesr.

Unco · 02-01-2007, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommy

who says its a good product? the discription says it does the exact same thing as the $5 chips on ebay. all it does is alter the air intake temp and trick the car into running rich. a 50cent resistor on the sensor would do the exact same thing.

where does it say that it alters the intake temperature and trick the car into running rich?

some of these chips work. the powerchip site seems reputable enough. i rencently enquired about a unichip for my v6 camry, they wanted $1,200 AUD including a dyno tune. i might go for it later down the track.

Tommy · 02-01-2007, 01:28 AM

^because thats how those "chips" work. of course they dont tell you how to do it, because the same effects can be achived with a potentiometer and a slight advancement of the timing on the distributer.

the only advantage of one of these is that it senses when you are under acceleration and advances the timing/richens the fuel then, instead of you turning a dial or leaving it on all the time.

you dont need hands on experience and a $600 hole in your wallet if you understand how the engine uses sensors to control running conditions.

africanmarty · 02-01-2007, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JetspeedCamry

Hey Marty, as per my PM to you...I have the Gold98 Chip installed. For your information, this chip DOES NOT change anything to do with intake temps or resistor bullshit. It is an Ignition/Timing mapping computer. The gains i have got from it are fantastic and highly recommend it. Most of my gains where made down below 3000RPM, where torque is now very impressive...and makes for very crisp response on a good night. No dyno or power figures .. i dont typically take my car out for a thrashing to see what its doing...moreso just go by feel of the pants...and yes, i can highly recommend it. Perhpas we can meet up at some stage and i can show you exactly what i mean, as i'm near to you. Cheesr.

thanks for the info jet i'm going to call them soon and et some info and look into this more, ive found under 3k the 3sfe is pretty boreing ( wich sounds like your V6 ) and would love some more tourque, do you have to run premium fuel ? like optimax ? you said "and makes for very crisp response on a good night" does that mean you dont feel the same respond down low on a hot day and only on a cold night ? thanks for ya time mate.

regards Marty.

Tommy · 02-01-2007, 02:47 AM

...runs better on a cold night because the air is denser, and with more fuel, which is what the effect of those chips is =...more power. simple logic.

JetspeedCamry · 02-01-2007, 02:55 AM

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...runs better on a cold night because the air is denser, and with more fuel, which is what the effect of those chips is =...more power. simple logic.

Mate, as i just said before, go and learn what this PARTICULAR chip does...it doesnt effect FUEL...id doesnt effect the IAT....its got nothing to do with it.