Is window regulator sold with motor?

[66conv6]

88 Camry LE left power window.
I tested all my wiring thru the door with a meter and the window motor and the motor is bad. Since I'm spending my time to fix this I want a new/rebuilt motor. I thought I might as well replace the regulator too while I'm at it.

I found a bunch of web sites and e-bay selling window regulators without the motor and it says so on the site. I can also buy the motor separate. Now I'm finding web sites with photos showing the whole assembly but the words are "with power window". They don't specifically say the motor is included even though its in the photo. I called a couple companies and one said the motor is included and one with the same photo said it wasn't included. On both calls they spoke poor english and seemed to say yes to whatever question I posed. Frustrating. So I've seen a photo of the whole assembly (i.e. E-bay) for $40usd or less even though the listing says 'window regulator'. Anyone have experience with this and know whats what?

[timebuilder]

I'd go to a yard in person and ask for what I want.

[toyomoho]

Try the junkyard route. www.rockauto.com sells motors, no doubt other web vendors and auto parts stores do also.

[66conv6]

I want a new or rebuilt motor and possibly the regulator. No wrecking yard stuff.

[toyomoho]

Try Rockauto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

[Variety=Spice]

Here's what I would do for a car I was planning on driving for a long time and if I needed to save money:

I'd go to a self-serve junkyard and harvest a good looking window motor. I'd take it apart and examine the carbon brushes. If the brushes weren't at least 50% or better I'd harvest brushes out of a motor from one of the back doors and change them out. 9 time out of 10 it's the brushes that wear out and cause the motor to stop working. Heck, I'd probably take my own motor apart first and see if that's the problem....maybe you just need to replace the carbon brushes. Sometimes the brushes get all dusty and hang up in their tracks...won't move. A little electrical contact cleaner and dielectric grease often fixes that problem. Sometimes just a few solid hits with a hammer can free up the brushes for awhile.

Brushes are the 2 little rectangular pieces with a somewhat square cross section and a braided copper wire coming off one end. They make contact with the motor commutator.

see photo here:
http://www.gearseds.com/curriculum/i...nd_brushes.jpg

[Mike Gerber]

Variety=Spice,

Do you know where the brushes can easily be obtained? Do dealers or any aftermarket auto parts stores carry them?

Mike

[Variety=Spice]

If it were me, I'd nab some from the rear door motors (not used as much as the front motors, ususally) at the junkyard. Short of that, some hardware stores stock them. Radio Shack may have them.

Shops that rebuild automotive alternators may be another source.

IMHO, for the time it would take to source new replacements and verify fit you could pull good ones from the junkyard and be sure they're an exact fit and OEM spec.

I don't know about the dealer. Post back here if you call them and get an answer.

[Variety=Spice]

I pulled a pair of brushes out of a 89 Camry if anyone wants them.

I'd also be willing to replace your brushes with the ones I got if you ship me your motor and enough cash to cover shipping back and a sixer of my favorite microbrew.

Lesson learned from pulling these from the junkyard motor: Make sure you don't lose the ball bearing from the end of the motor shaft if you pull yours apart to inspect it.