Timing Belt Ripped! Replacing it myself... - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

pacificwestern · 02-25-2007, 11:07 PM

Q2. Please comment

I got an estimate for a “full job” (water pump replacement, seals etc.) and its about $700 Cnd! I know a knowledgeable friend who can help me do the job at his garage instead to save money. We have a Chilton and a couple other manuals for guidance.

1)Does anyone have any tips on “preferred” methods for this job?

2)Is it better to pull the engine out or access the timing belt through the wheel-well?

3)What other components need to be replaced?

4)Any other do’s or don’ts?

Thanks, and I hope this is useful to other Toyota owners as well

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Q1. (Q1 has been Answered)
Thanks for all your replies. It's now pretty clear that 2SE engine is a non-interference engine.

I have an ’86 Camry with a 2SE (2.0L) gas engine. The Timing Belt Ripped at highway speed.

Does anyone know if the valves might have sustained damage?

In other words, is my engine a free spinning/non-interference engine (one where the pistons will not hit the valves when the cam shaft stops turning)?

The car is otherwise in a good condition so I was wondering if it's worth spending the money to replace the timing belt or will I possibly find that my engine is wrecked and I just wasted my money on the TB?

I appreciate your suggestions (Already Answered)

OBwan · 02-25-2007, 11:15 PM

If it's a 3 sfe engine just replace the belt and drive on. I've broke 3 on the same car over the years and never had a problem.

Tip: keep track of the mileage and use a Toyota belt. They last longer.

pacificwestern · 02-25-2007, 11:31 PM

Thanks for the post OBwan. Mine is a 2SE engine. I hope your comments are valid for 2SE engines as well.

***toyomoho*** · 02-26-2007, 12:30 AM

My data says not interferance. If in doubt call the Toyota dealer. If so, then just replace the belt, happens all the time. Also check water pump and idle pulleys as you will have the engine apart anyway.

pacificwestern · 02-26-2007, 01:17 AM

Thanks a lot for checking, toyomoho

Mike Gerber · 02-26-2007, 02:24 PM

I had an 86 Camry with the 2SE engine. It is a non-interference engine. I also had a timing belt snap on that car at 53,000 miles. I was watching and waiting till 60,000 miles to replace it when it snapped. It was an OEM Toyota belt. Just replace the belt and you should be fine.

Mike

terrastrife · 02-26-2007, 02:51 PM

99.9% cases if its a belt on ya toyota motor its non interference.

marc780 · 04-02-2007, 01:00 PM

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2)Is it better to pull the engine out or access the timing belt through the wheel-well?

By now im sure you have addressed the problem but in case anyone else reading this is in a similar quandary, here's my two cents on this very common issue -

There's no reason to pull the engine just to replace the timing belt. The clearance is tight but removing the engine is alot more work, as you can imagine. (If the engine were out of the car for some other reason, i'd just change this belt anyway.) If you DIY you will have some difficult moments perhaps but you can do it, there are several excellent posts here on doing this chore that you may find useful.

I don't know the exchange rate but the parts to do it right would cost about $200 US. If you are tight at the moment and your pulleys and water pump seem like they would probably be ok for a while, just change the belt only, if you must. A toyota belt is like $30 and thats all you'd need to get by for now.

If your timing belt breaks and you can afford to fix it right, change the water pump and idler pulleys at the same time. At the very least you should remove and inspect these parts carefully, by spinning them and feeling for roughness or sticking.

The timing belt can snap for two reasons, firstly it is just frayed and worn out. And second, the water pump or pulleys are worn out, sticking or binding up and this too will snap the belt very quickly. Toyota OEM parts are generally of excellent quality so normally this would not happen for 150,000 - 200,000 miles. But if this is your second timing belt change, i'd be sure to change these parts at all costs.
Even if the timing belt is worn out but has not broken yet, sometimes a few rubber teeth can break off the belt, and this may cause the engine to jump time. If the belt jumps time it could cause an engine performance problem that is hard to track down. And you can wind up replacing a lot of other expensive parts before you find the real issue. Probably a good reason to change the belt on time if you can.

(Image shows V6 timing belt, water pump and idler pulleys)

aussie_gen1 · 05-11-2007, 09:43 PM

I got home last night with the car overheating, and when i checked it this morning, it's leaking coolant rapidly from the water pump gasket, so i guess i'll be replacing that, the water pump and timing belt and pulleys. The car has 170 thousand kilometers on the clock, anything else I should replace while I'm in there?