1st & 2nd Generation (1983–1986 & 1987-1991)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 1983-1986 & 1987-1991.
Topics of discussion range from fuel economy, safety, modifications, performance all involving America's favorite family car, the Toyota Camry.
Has anyone else heard to not use Texaco gasoline because of the additives clog the fuel injectors on smaller engines? I was told by multiple people and even one person saying they recieved a notice from their honda dealer to avoid Texaco/Chevron stations.
I don't know if this is bogus or not but I can say for myself that both my 89 Toyota Camry LE 4cyld and my 99 Honda Civic EX ran as follows on the following gas stations
both cars ran great using Hess, Sunoco, and WAWA gas stations
The toyota ran good on BP and Citgo, but the honda ran good only on Citgo and ok on BP
They both ran ok on Exxon
They both ran lousy on Texaco and Shell
I have never been to a Chevron station to tell. So I think that they might be right given how my cars have ran.
How about all of you? Have you heard this statement and what gas works good for you.
gas for the most part is gas. Shell should not give you any problems. Exxon should not, BP should not, and Cheveron probably should not. The gas stations you have to be aware of are the cheap chains like Wawa and Sheetz. They get the cheapest gas they can get, without regard to the quality of product. When buying from gas stations which you think are not good to get, get the plus grade (89-91) octane.
something you might look into is tuning up your cars to make sure that they are running efficiently (check spark plugs- and spark gaps-, check your distributor and rotor, clean air filter, fresh oil change, and possibly try a fuel treatment product. -lucas products are best IMHO-). If you are noticing a difference between shell and exxon, bp or whatever... its probably just in your head.
of all the top tier gas stations, my car gets the best mileage with shell. Awhile back, i used Chevron, but when i switched to shell, my mileage improved dramatically.
the odd part, was, i only switched to Shell, b/c at that time that shell had a car wash LOL!!
i agree. A friend of mine who works @ Shell Oil said that all the Oil companies get the same oil from the same distributors. and all the companies refine the oil the same way.
what makes the the fuel different are the differnt additives that are put into the fuel when they are dropped into the station tanks or the delivery tanks
I drive approximately 40,000 miles a year just for work and use my camry specifically for a work commute vehicle. I have done multiple fuel mileage tests using all the different gas stations (BP, Shell, Speedway, Sunoco, Meijer, Citgo, etc...). I have found that Meijer gasoline gives me the best MPG's, followed by BP, Shell, Speedway, Citgo and lastly, Sunoco. I have also found that my pickup, which is a diesel, gets the best MPG's using Meijer diesel fuel, compared to the other brands. I have tried contacting Meijer to inquire where they get their fuel from, but they won't tell. Either way, it's good stuff!
When I state how good the cars run i'm judging this by fuel milage, how it runs at idle whether it is idling smooth or slightly rough and acceleration.
I tune my vehicles very frequently and replace parts if they have any show or wear.
Oil is changed every 3000 miles
rotate tires ever 3,000 miles,
fuel injection cleaner every 3,000 miles,
coolant drained every 20,000,
trans fluid drained and filter every 20,000,
air filter cleaned every 20,000 (K&N resusable),
fuel filter every 20,000 miles,
belts including timing belts every 50,000,
brakes and fliud drained every 50,000 miles (thats how long a set seems to last me,
but i'll change them before if bad),
Distributor cap and rotor every 50,000 miles,
Spark plugs and wires every 50,000 miles
Power stearing fluid drained every 50,000 miles,
Computer tune-up every 50,000 miles
Tires every 60,000 miles
Battery every 75,000 miles
I'm very strict when it comes to it. I keep a check list in both glove boxes.
So its not a matter of the cars not being taken care. The cars just run different using different gas stations.
Last edited by Ancientwolf13; 03-16-2007 at 04:18 PM.
When I state how good the cars run i'm judging this by fuel milage, how it runs at idle whether it is idling smooth or slightly rough and acceleration.
I tune my vehicles very frequently and replace parts if they have any show or wear.
Oil is changed every 3000 miles
rotate tires ever 3,000 miles,
fuel injection cleaner every 3,000 miles,
coolant drained every 20,000,
trans fluid drained and filter every 20,000,
air filter cleaned every 20,000 (K&N resusable),
fuel filter every 20,000 miles,
belts including timing belts every 50,000,
brakes and fliud drained every 50,000 miles (thats how long a set seems to last me,
but i'll change them before if bad),
Distributor cap and rotor every 50,000 miles,
Spark plugs and wires every 50,000 miles
Power stearing fluid drained every 50,000 miles,
Computer tune-up every 50,000 miles
Tires every 60,000 miles
Battery every 75,000 miles
I'm very strict when it comes to it. I keep a check list in both glove boxes.
So its not a matter of the cars not being taken care. The cars just run different using different gas stations.
I think I wanna buy my next used car from you.
I'm generally not observant enough to notice a difference in gas. The only "problem" I've had was with Speedway, who twice in the past 12 months failed to debit my pay-at-the-pump purchase. I've overlooked this infraction though.
A computer tune-up is when the ECU is scanned and checked to make sure everything is running and setup correctly (a diagnostic). This usually isn't a problem unless there are some codes, but Toyota had to re-program my ECU once because the ECU wasn't compensating properly for the new O2 sensor and new fuel injectors both of which were OEM parts from Toyota themselves. So I get it checked every 50,000 miles in case any adjustments are needed
They do alot of this in the performance industry to make the cars run differently depending on the driving type needed. However, they have special ECUs and do not use the stock ECUs.
It differs in price depending on which dealer you go to, I normally paid $50 here in SC for just the diagnostic, but I'm friends with the mechanics there and they give me discounts on everything . The time I had to get it reprogrammed it cost $130.
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Problems with certain gas stations.
. The time I had to get it reprogrammed it cost $130.
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