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Old 05-23-2007, 08:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2nd Generation distributor question.

4cyl 5spd. i took out my aftermarket distributor and put on a used oem. now the car is not picking up speed. timing is set to 10deg with terminal shorted, like the label under hood stated.

if i put the inner part of the distributor that holds the camshaft the other way will the car still start? the engine doesnt pull until high rpms. what else can affect this. only code its throwing is signal switch 51. i have no clue to fix that problem.
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The distributor shaft will only go in one way. Why did you need to replace the distributor? Did you install the ignition wires correctly, is the new distributor exactly the same as the old one.

Code 51:
Park/Neutral switch, A/C switch or throttle position sensor.

Download the Gen_3, 5SFE engine info from the link below. This has details on troubleshooting this code.

http://oregonstate.edu/~tongt/camry

There should also be info on troubleshooting the distributor.
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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theres a defect in my aftermarket distributor. i wouldnt know why. its been passed from to me from my brother. now he is using a used oem toyota without a problem. this one i belive is from kragen. sometimes the engine dies but starts back up. ill check out that info u gave me.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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y should he d/l the gen3 5sfe with he has a gen2 with 3sfe ?
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The Toyota manual goes into several static tests for the distributor, pick-up coils and the coil. Try those.

When you checked the timing did you have the OBI port jumpered?

Why did you take out the aftermarket distributor in the first place? If you put it back in does the problem go away?

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Old 05-25-2007, 11:09 AM   #6 (permalink)
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y should he d/l the gen3 5sfe with he has a gen2 with 3sfe ?
thats what i was thinking too but maybe the 5s has similar construction distributor? im not sure... but ill take a look.

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OBI port jumpered
is this te and e1? if so. yes.


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Why did you take out the aftermarket distributor in the first place? If you put it back in does the problem go away?
the aftermarket, sometimes while driving the engine shuts off then comes back on. like i said since my bro put on a used oem toyota dist on his, he drove over 3hrs with no problem. im commuting with mine now and i hate it. happens often. the used oem toyota i had on the motor now has oil inside the distrib. my bro told me possible coil, put the oem toyota coil into the aftermarket. ill try that this weekend.
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The rotor shaft inside the distributor has an o-ring. Evidently that has given out and you are getting oil into the distributor. Officially, Toyota doesn't sell that seal. However, do a search on this forum. There was an on-line retailer that sells a kit to rebuild it. I believe that you will need to drill out a pin and re-pin it so it isn't a kitchen table repair but it didn't look too complicated.

However, before attempting the seal make sure that the pick-up coils are functioning (the static tests that I mentioned) and that the coil is good. Be a shame to wait for the seal and then it not work after you rebuild it. I ran an oily distributor for several months. I don't recall it affecting the low RPM power.

From what I am reading I understand that when you use the aftermarket distributor you have good power but the engine will die on you unexpectedly (while you were moving, stationary, both?). Now, with a used Toyota distributor, it doesn't have any pickup but the engine no longer dies.

Are you using the same coil each time or two different coils? Are you using the same three wire harness or does each distributor have its own wires? If you have two complete distributors you might try swapping parts. I wouldn't change out the pickup coils until you have the specs to put them back.

Were both of these distributors designed for your engine? I can't tell for sure. If you are mixing 3SFE & 5sfe parts that could be the problem.

You may have more than one issue here.

I'm sorry Adobe would you mind interpreting "y should he d/l the gen3 3SFE with he has a Gen with 3SFE ?". You guys must be into texting. I just can't make sense of it.


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I don't know if the GEN2 manuals have the trouble shooting that KEP mentioned in the GEN3 manuals .... but you can get the GEN2 manuals here .... as well as GEN 4, 5 and 6. http://www.camrymanuals.com/
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