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Old 05-26-2007, 08:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Key and Lock Rebuild???

I just got the car .... and the keys may be a little worn out, or copies of worn out keys .... so here are my questions.

For my Del Sol I was able to get new keys from the dealer cut based on factory specs from the serial # ... I had to show my registration or title and swear on my first born that it was my car. Is this available from the Toyota Dealership?

The keys I have do open the trunk and passenger door without a problem .... but the ignition is a challange most of the time and so is the drivers side door. The key comes out of the ignition when the engine is running ... not sure if these problems are with the keys or the locks? My bet is the locks are worn out. Does anyone know of a how to and place to find the parts needed to rebuild the lock cylinders? Is this something I should take to the locksmith? I would like to have the keys stay the same.

I am surprised a 17 year old Toyota with 150K has worn out door and ignition cylinders when my 90 F150 with 110K has locks that feel like new.
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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get used to it or go spend 300.00 and get new ones
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AmsOil MP spray works well to free up the tumblers in locks. It won't do anything for the key falling out of the ignition but should make it easier to turn.
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The Toyota dealer can make you new keys from the key code, (usually a 4 digit number) which you probably don't have. I think you have to disassemble the door and get the key code from somewhere inside the door, (probably the lock itself) but I don't remember exactly where it is. Maybe someone else can chime in here with exactly where. You may first try calling the dealer's parts department and see if they can identify the key code from the VIN, but I seriously doubt they will be able to go back to the generation 2. At least they can tell you exactly where to look inside the door. A few years ago I had a nephew with a generation 2 that badly needed a new key. One of the guys who had worked parts at the local dealer for quite a while was able to look at his worn key, write down a series of codes and then make a new key from those codes. I don't know if any of those guys still exist anywhere today.

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i love it when the key falls out in the dark and you go to turn it off and the key is somewhere on the floor, most old camrys can be started with a screwdriver or worn key
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i love it when the key falls out in the dark and you go to turn it off and the key is somewhere on the floor, most old camrys can be started with a screwdriver or worn key
Now I know why the GEN2's are still high on the nationwide stolen car list.

I will look for the codes ... got the car from my uncle and he was original owner ... so the code may be in the manual.
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"got the car from my uncle and he was original owner ... so the code may be in the manual."

Hope for that. It will save you a lot of work.

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Well ... didn't find it in the glovebox .... so it looks like I get the take the long road. Which door is it in ... and is it on the lock itself?
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in my camrys i got new copies and they are still screwed up
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i love it when the key falls out in the dark and you go to turn it off and the key is somewhere on the floor, most old camrys can be started with a screwdriver or worn key
I had, at one point, a '77 Corolla, an '81 Starlet, and my current Camry, and all my Toyota keys would turn over my Camry! I do not have a problem with my key falling out, but I have pulled it out of the ignition at times to use other keys on it while I wanted my car to continue to run.
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Unless you want to dismantle the door anyway, call Toyota up and ask them if they can get the code if you provide them your VIN. If you do decide to dismantle the door go ahead and grease the regulator.

I just found your other thread on the reason the battery drained. I had completely forgotten about that. Mine did the same thing once. Sorry I didn't think of it.

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Well ... didn't find it in the glovebox .... so it looks like I get the take the long road. Which door is it in ... and is it on the lock itself?

I actually don't remember exactly which door it is, so rather then guessing and giving you wrong advice, I would advise you to call Toyota corporate at 1-800-331-4331 with your VIN handy and ask customer service. Your local dealer will also know, so you can give them a call. I wouldn't want you to do this work twice.

PS: Toyota provides a small rectangular plate about 1/2 inch long by 3/16 of an inch high with the 4 digit key code on it. It is usually given to the customer when the car is delivered. Have you seen anything like that or does your uncle still have it? It might be worth one more call to him to ask.

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Thanks Guys .... I was planning on replacing the drivers door lock also, since it turns to the locked position easily, but not to the unlock position without some force ... passenger side works great. BTW .... What regulator should I grease ... power window regulator???

I have not seen the key code in the owners manual. It is probably in the same place as the plastic emergency key that he could not find. I will ask if he has been able to find any more keys, I bet it is attached to one unused factory key. I got 2 copies and the original Valet key .... one of the copies in fairly new, the other pretty worn and a bit twisted from the door lock most likely .... the Valet key is rather worn looking also, and opens all locks, including the trunk .... but I didn't try it on the trunk/fuel switch or glovebox.
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If you don't have the code, the dealer can get it from the VIN. I did that with my wagon, and got new keys cut from code. Unfortunately they don't work well in the ignition. Regardless of how badly an ignition tumbler is worn, I would think a new code-cut key would still work well. Key situation is still a mess on the wagon.
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Went to the dealer after work yesterday .... need title or reg and proof of insurance ..... the car is sitting in my driveway and not going to be driven, insured or registered until I can get the repairs done and the car is roadworthy ..... I guess they just want me to junk it, the keys are the first of a few repairs. And the dealer also wants over $160 just for the ignition lock and switch ... they say the lock/switch has been revised 3 times and the newest requires replacement of the switch/wire harness. Then there is still the cost of keying the locks a $40 each and $70 for the door lock. I think they are smokin crack .... I will see if I can get it done cheaper, but would really like new keys to get the two new locks rekeyed before I install them.
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