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Old 09-15-2007, 10:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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did my timing belt snap?

I was driving up a hill last night and i started going slower so i slightly pressed the gas to downshift, but no shift. about 3 seconds after that power steering went out and engine wasn't running. CEL came on along with Battery, and Oil light. Pulled over and checked oil, coolant and tranny fluid, all was good. Wasn't overheating and my electricals were still working so it's not a bad alternator. While attemtping to start it the Starter spins freely and faster then usual. But the crank doesn't seem to be turning over. So i'm guessing my belt snapped. Any input?
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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sounds like it... you better hope it's just that... good thing is the engine isn't interference so your didn't break any valves.
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yeah i was about 85% sure that's what caused the breakdown. just crossing my fingers that i don't need a new engine yet since this ones been running strong for 250k miles.
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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when my timing belt blew on my camry i was redlining... err nearly hitting the RPM limiter, I heard a lovely POP!!! sound followed be another.... oh yeah, I lost breaks and power stearing... going down a mountain in WV! Woooh! fun! ebrake time!!!! the belt was long over due... from what I understand, the timing belts go almost like clockwork... 60k miles, so once you get a new one on there, make sure to remember to replace it before is breaks on you again!
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Why would you lose brakes? You just lose power assist on the brakes if the engine shuts off.

Your hydraulic brakes still work. You just have to push harder.
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Why would you lose brakes? You just lose power assist on the brakes if the engine shuts off.

Your hydraulic brakes still work. You just have to push harder.


You have to push a lot harder. If you have ever lost vacuum (like when the engine dies in this case) on a power brake system, it takes a lot more effort to stop the car. When my 94 was about a month old, some animal got in to the engine compartment and ate the large vacuum line that feeds the power brake booster. My first stop nearly caused me to have to return home to change my shorts.

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lightly crank and see if the distributor rotor spins, if not... jus do timing belt job.
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If your belt snapped you would know about it, it is possible though that it wasnt obvious. The belt may have let go slowly instead of snapping in one shot. Either way if the belt let go it would whip the timing off and the engine would stall, and you would not be able to restart it. Anyways the best way to check is to take off the plastic timing cover right behind the fanbelt. Its a couple of bolts, 10mm I think, and if you take off enough of them you can pry the cover back, then you can take a look at the belt, if it snapped it'll be lose on the cam gear. If it the belt did snap your extra lucky if you didnt damage anything. Usually a broken belt results in a bent valve and a very expensive head job/replacement.... first take a look and see if its actually the belt... good luck...
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You stated that the starter turns faster than normal but the crank dosent seem to be turning over. Even with a broken timing belt you should see the crank and the accesory drive belts turning. The camshaft will be the only thing not turning but you cant see that from the outside.
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Old 09-17-2007, 05:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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... from what I understand, the timing belts go almost like clockwork... 60k miles, so once you get a new one on there, make sure to remember to replace it before is breaks on you again!

60 k??....who told you that?.....As long as there are no oil leaks leaking directly onto the belt, the timing belt lasts longer then that for sure.....you can expect atleast 100k from a timing belt, possibly more.
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60 000 miles / 100 000 kms is correct, its almost a rule of thumb that at 60 000 miles/ 100 000 kms you change the belt and the water pump, although VW recommends changing it at 100 000 miles/160 000 kms for some reason, this number differs between the people you talk to.

1989pandacamry, did you open up the plastic cover to see if the belt has snapped? you'll know by looking at it. If it hasnt snapped take a close look at it for any cracks or wear, this signals a timing belt replacement!

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60 000 miles / 100 000 kms is correct, its almost a rule of thumb that at 60 000 miles/ 100 000 kms you change the belt and the water pump, although VW recommends changing it at 100 000 miles/160 000 kms for some reason, this number differs between the people you talk to.
I get that, but 100k is fine for sure (if oil is not leakin on it of course)
I guess it's better to be safe then sorry, but the car companies are purposly modest about it.....60k is for sure the low end of how far you can take a timing belt
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:56 AM   #13 (permalink)
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its recommended 60k minimum but 90k max but most people dont care but to look at the condition of the belt... if a car thats still under warranty and timing belt broke alittle over 90k, warranty probably wont replace it. its a wear and tear situation.
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water pump should be changed along with belt? hmm better get on that ASAP.

Just changed distributor cap, spark plugs and wires, fuel filter, and air filter. When i first started the car i noticed it was running weird. And by the end of the day i remembered that i did the AFM mod and that was probably why the timing was off? so i put it back 4 clicks and had my mechanic come to my house and time it again. Car is running great now with the tune-up.


does anyone here run their cars with 2.25" catback w/o muffler?
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water pump should be changed along with belt? hmm better get on that ASAP.

Just changed distributor cap, spark plugs and wires, fuel filter, and air filter. When i first started the car i noticed it was running weird. And by the end of the day i remembered that i did the AFM mod and that was probably why the timing was off? so i put it back 4 clicks and had my mechanic come to my house and time it again. Car is running great now with the tune-up.


does anyone here run their cars with 2.25" catback w/o muffler?
Maybe should do pulley's and idler spring too...

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