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Old 01-16-2008, 08:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dead 88 Camry. Help!

So it's dead. Seized, dead. Everything else works fine. V4, 3SFE, FWD Automatic Transmission.

I am willing to replace the engine. And if yall do not mind, links to books/manuals about HOW to replace the the engine.

I have found a GREAT site and a AMAZINGLY low price for the engine.

http://www.jdmtigerjapanese.com/prod...roducts_id=263

$350 for that? A steal! And the mileage is hecka low!

(For all who seem suspicious, I am not advertising, just asking for your opinion and help )

What I'm worried about is that Japanese cars are right hand side, and this one is left... will that make a difference? (Using the origional power steering stuff, ect. I basically only need the block, and everything in it).

Also, how is it bolting a 30-40k engine to a 255k transmission that still uses the origional Toyota fluid? (Don't ask.)

I have gotten my hands dirty before, and I know most of the maintenance for everything. I know more than the basics (oil changes, air filter, ect.). I have gotten to the transmission, fuel filters, ect.

And I have plenty of time. This would do fine for a small project now, and a large project over the summer (I can work all day with a laptop by my side if I have to.)

I'm in no hurry to have it running, we have two other Toyota vehicles that we have been using in the passing months.

And help is appreciated. Thanks guys
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camrystuff.com and get the manual. engine works fine.. but you'll have to re-use your intake and exhuast. basically it's just the block you'll be using. probbly a 3 day job with a friend and an engine hoist
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The left or right hand drive isn't really the issue when you get a JDM engine. The difference you'll find is that the emissions equipment is different on the JDM motor. It's just a matter of swapping over what's on your existing engine to it.

Hard to say how long the auto transmission will last with that kind of miles.

You can pickup a Hayne's Automotive Repair Manual at most bookstores or a lot of auto parts stroes.



If you go to http://www.autozone.com and click on repiar info, it will take you to an online repair manual.

I had an '88 LE for many years. The car had a few quirks here and there, but I liked tha car.
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Good site. Print the relevant info from camrystuff.com and prepare to use every bit of patience you possess...but you can do it (255k on the tranny or not).
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Old 01-17-2008, 05:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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camrystuff.com and get the manual. engine works fine.. but you'll have to re-use your intake and exhuast. basically it's just the block you'll be using. probbly a 3 day job with a friend and an engine hoist
Still need the hoist That's fine! Replace that stuff, ect. Most likely I'll see if some of that stuff is compatible, as they are newer... and newer is usually better

3 day job? Seriously?! Well, I do have my 12 year old son ... Although not adult strong, very strong for his age, and is more mechanically inclined than me

And I planned a 2 month job

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The left or right hand drive isn't really the issue when you get a JDM engine. The difference you'll find is that the emissions equipment is different on the JDM motor. It's just a matter of swapping over what's on your existing engine to it.

Hard to say how long the auto transmission will last with that kind of miles.

You can pickup a Hayne's Automotive Repair Manual at most bookstores or a lot of auto parts stroes.



If you go to http://www.autozone.com and click on repiar info, it will take you to an online repair manual.

I had an '88 LE for many years. The car had a few quirks here and there, but I liked tha car.
I have that manual. Nothing in there for R&Ring the engine...




Anyways - I know it needs the origional starter. I think I burnt it trying to start the seized engine... Stupid me

It'll need most likely:

Catalytic Converter - 20 years of cheapo gasoline doesn't help.
Oxygen Sensors - Original Sensors from Toyota
Tranmission Fluid + Filter - Same filter and fluid from Toyota Factory
Fuel Filter - Same filter from Toyota Factory
Cold Air Intake - More performance
Oil Pan Screen + Gasket - Cheapo Oil and FRAM Filters don't help. Oil leak too.
Radiator + Coolant - Stock coolant from Toyota (20 years!), and the radiator is crapped out. The cap is basically covered in... Gunk
Mass Air Flow Sensor - I broke like a clip off the end of it when trying to remove it.
Brake Rotors + Brake Fluid + Master Cylinder - Stock brake fluid, crappy rotors and needs new pads anyways.
Low Profile Tires - More acceleration

How does that sound?
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Parts:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOYOT...spagenameZWDVW - Meh... Racing right?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/87-91...spagenameZWDVW - Radiator
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/87-88...spagenameZWDVW -Intake Cold Air
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OXYGE...spagenameZWDVW - Oxygen Sensor

Look good so far? I'll be using Mobil 1/K&N Oil Filters and 5w-30 Full Synthetic Mobil 1 oil.
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I have that manual. Nothing in there for R&Ring the engine...

I have the Haynes Manual too.

Engine removal and installation is covered in Chapter 2 Part C under Section 5 Engine - Removal and installation. It shows a 33 step Engine Removal Installation Process complete with 10 photos.

If you install lower profile tires, your speedometer will be off. If you can find stock alloy wheels, they are very light.
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Taking a look at my manual... it's different... But it's like the same thing...



Is mine old and outta date or something?!
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Aha! I found that section... Hmm... it's under General engine overhaul procedures... Hmm... Never thought it would be there...

Anyways, the first eBay item I listed. Does that really increase a bit more boiling temperature? Thanks!

And thanks! Tom 2000, and the rest that helped me! Thank you all1
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Anyways, the first eBay item I listed. Does that really increase a bit more boiling temperature? Thanks!
Theoretically, those rad caps should provide a slightly better seal, allowing the pressure to rise and lowering the boiling point.

However, you are not driving a full-race car. Your rad hoses (and the clamps that seal them to the rad and the inlet/outlet piping on the head) are not designed for high-pressure. Your rad, unless a high-performance design, is not engineered for higher pressure... In a nutshell, these rad caps won't do you much good unless you shell-out for high-performance equipment all around.

They do look kinda cool, though.
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:18 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Theoretically, those rad caps should provide a slightly better seal, allowing the pressure to rise and lowering the boiling point.

However, you are not driving a full-race car. Your rad hoses (and the clamps that seal them to the rad and the inlet/outlet piping on the head) are not designed for high-pressure. Your rad, unless a high-performance design, is not engineered for higher pressure... In a nutshell, these rad caps won't do you much good unless you shell-out for high-performance equipment all around.

They do look kinda cool, though.
Yeah I have to admit they do

Anyways, what's the best "HP Gainer" not including a full maintince? Besides a new muffler, racing catalytic converter, and cold air intake. I'm looking toward higher speeds and more acceleration.

And POSSIBLY a turbocharger (No, for real ).

What parts do ya recon I can reuse on the new (used) engine that I'ma buy when I get the old one out?
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Before I start the project this summer, what parts do yall recon I'll need?
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what parts come with your new engine? Is it a longblock? If so, do you get the alternator, throttle body, intake plenum and exhaust manifold with the "new" engine?
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Look at the link specified above.

I've gotten the radiator removed... and by god, it's not clogged! Although the rad fluid honestly was as dark as mud. It was basically so old the auto tranny pipe split and I had to cut this other one off -.- (Not the 2 main hoses)

Soo... It says to remove the vaccum lines and fuel rails. No further details.


HELP!!!!!!!!
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Tell you what: get a roll of masking tape and a felt marker. Systematically tape and number every single vacuum hose on your engine/intake. Take a BUNCH of polaroid or digital pictures so that you can CLEARLY see where each and every vacuum line was attached. Refer back to these pictures when you're re-assembling the new block in your car.

As for the fuel rails, be sure to relieve the pressure in the lines first. Then go to www.camrystuff.com and follow the steps there. Hell, just print-off the entire "engine overhaul" section from the website and take it outside with you!
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