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Just got the new (used) motor in my 89 Camry. Starts great and runs, but I am getting a miss on cylinder 1 (far passenger side). I pulled each plug wire while it was running to determine that it was, indeed, #1. I pull the plug wire, no change in RPM or sound. The wire is fine, good spark (new coil), and the plug is fine, sparking like krazy.
So, now I am thinking two things, compression and fuel. I am going to try a compression check tomorrow, but I have a feeling that's not it, only because 1. there's no smoke, 2. even with low compression, I should get a LITTLE change in sound when I pull the wire, and 3. I'm trying to be optimistic. If it's the compression, well, can't do shit about it. But, for now, I will turn my attention to the fuel.
It still has all the injectors from the used motor. I did not touch them. So, I suppose I can guess at one of 3 problems-no signal to the injector, the injector is clogged, or the injector is completely faulty and not firing at all.
Assuming the compression will check out fine, do you all agree I should be looking at the injector as the culprit? Is there anything else it could be that I'm forgetting? So, how do I check the signal to the injector? And what's the easiest way to change this one damned injector? Should I even bother to try a bottle of injector cleaner before pulling shit apart?
Thanks in advance for all your help.
Try to listen to the injector with sound probe, it should click if it receives signal and not stuck..
also you may just put in injector from your old motor.
Yep, that was one thing I was gonna do, try to score a mechanic's stethoscope and give that a shot. If it is bad, yes, I was just gonna use one of the old injectors, since I know they were working fine. So, is pulling one of these injectors as much of a pain in the ass as it looks? The whole fuel rail has to come out, right?
On my Camry some stupid mechanics removed the fuel rail and left #3 injector insulator out, causing air leak and gas seepage.
To swap injectors [PERFORM THIS ON COLD ENGINE!!]:
· Obtain the new o-ring set for injectors
· Disconnect accelerator cable from the bracket;
· Remove cable bracket with kick down cable attached
· Remove spark plug wires and move them away [leave them connected to the distributor cap]
· Remove valve cover
· Place plastic bag over the cams
· Remove the plastic cap from pulsation damper
· Remove connectors from injectors including cold start injector
· Separate cold start injector from the intake plenum, but leave it connected to the fuel line
· Unscrew two fuel rail to head bolts; leave them in the fuel rail ears
· Grasp injectors by both hands and slowly pull the fuel rail with injectors toward intake manifold, watching for plastic spacers around each bolt
· Pull injectors from the fuel rail [the one for cylinder 4 is the hardest one]
Install injectors using new o-rings.
Install all components
Let spilled gas to evaporate.
Check the system by jumping B+ and Fp terminals in the diagnostic connector. Turn ign. ON, do not start the engine. Watch for leaks.
If no leaks are found, remove the jumper and start the engine.
Brutal. Something I didn't wanna do, especially after spending a month putting this engine in. But thank you very much for the rundown. I hope it doesn't come to that, but I bet it will. I'm gonna try a bottle of injector cleaner and hope for the best, but expect the worst. Actually, the worst would be no compression on that cylinder!
Yeah, I know. But, for now, I don't have a stethoscope to check out if the injector is actually operating, so I figure a 3 dollar bottle of cleaner will have to do for now. Like I said, I don't expect it to work, but I can't do anything else right now.
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