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Old 09-03-2008, 08:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rare find on ebay

Holy crap...

http://motors.search.ebay.com/search...s2=96786&lsot2=

The White '87 Camry has only 19K MILES...19K!!! HOLY CRAP!!!

Too bad it is an DX...but it is like new...Not even my year old versa has that low miles!
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Holy CRAP!!!

That's not an '87 though.... isn't '87 Gen 1?
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Interesting about the rust on the white one with 19k miles.... too bad it wasn't taken better care of.

The other one that showed up in the search has 38k miles, and it's a 5-speed!
Too bad the seller has it overpriced by about 2k.

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Old 09-05-2008, 02:09 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Yea, what a shame on it. 19K with rust on the fender. Nothing to serious though. Interior and exterior (besides the rust) is in immaculate condition.

The other guy selling the Gen2 '87 38K w/ 5spd is selling way too high..asking too much. 5spd, but it is a baseline. Did the LE trim come with 5spd optional? I remember seeing an '86 Camry with LE loaded things (power window, digital tash, power locks, sunroof), but it had a 5spd tranny.
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Don't know about that..... the only 5-speed models I've seen (very few) didn't have trimline badges, so I assume that meant they are baseline with PW/PL ordered as an upgrade. That appears to be the case with my '89.

In the ebay auction, the guy said that this is a car for Camry enthusiasts. What he fails to grasp is that, as Camry enthusiasts, we also understand appropriate pricing. John Q. Public isn't going to pay 6 large for an '87 Camry with low miles, and neither is a Gen 2 Camry enthusiast.

He's on a journey of discovery, where he will enevitably discover this little tidbit of information.
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how can a car thats 20 years old that only been driven that much have rust...possible?
and plus its been repainted i find that weird
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My car has 153,000 miles and the interior is just as clean and my body is in mostly better condition.

Just goes to show how much highway miles really dont change the rusting.
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In Canada the 5-speed option was available on all trim levels for the gen2. Since last summer there have been three 5-speed LE Camrys in the scrap yard where I used to work.

And as for rust, the largest factor is geographical location. In regions where it snows, a car could have 5 miles on it, but over two decades the seasonal changes just destroy the body.
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From what I've seen (having lived most of my life in Michigan) that is very true about rust deterioration. It's almost as if a car will rot away faster if it's just parked than if it's driven. The cold damp moisture penetrates every part of the car. And even if it's been kept in a garage, that only helps to an extent. If the car never sits out in the sun to really dry out, then the moisture can really take it's toll.

I missed the part where it mentions repaint. I wouldn't touch it. With only that many miles, and that price, you should be buying a pristine car with no apologies or excuses, else it's just another low-mileage average Camry.
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From what I've seen (having lived most of my life in Michigan) that is very true about rust deterioration. It's almost as if a car will rot away faster if it's just parked than if it's driven. The cold damp moisture penetrates every part of the car. And even if it's been kept in a garage, that only helps to an extent. If the car never sits out in the sun to really dry out, then the moisture can really take it's toll.

I missed the part where it mentions repaint. I wouldn't touch it. With only that many miles, and that price, you should be buying a pristine car with no apologies or excuses, else it's just another low-mileage average Camry.
Maybe if they did a better job than just a 'repaint'.

Rust is evil. Hawaii's weather is humid and where I used to live (I'm living closer to work and college for now with a friend), it rains at lease twice a week, and thats on a good week. With morning mosture, the cars always get damp. Since I have 3 cars and two of them are outside (My Cressida and Camry), a decent car cover is over them protecting the paint and body. It is frabic so it breaths and dries without issue so long there is wind.
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I've heard that any coastal area can be rough on vehicles...the moist ocean air coupled with salty air sounds evil.
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I've heard that any coastal area can be rough on vehicles...the moist ocean air coupled with salty air sounds evil.
Yep. It can get rough for most of those cars. Rust is not rare in hawaii. Almost all cars above 10+ years has some rust forming. Always around the weather seals, trunks seal and lower quarters.

Since hawaii has the constant rains at times, it can be a triple over kill for cars on the shore line (ocean air + salt air + rain). Cars in the central part of the island deals with moisture due to rains. I doubt that is worst than snow + salt though.
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Best area in the continental US for older cars is usually around Arizona. Very low humidity, no salty roads in the winter, little rain, but then you have sun damage to the interior and exterior. The body will be new-car solid though.
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I've actually been thinking about those Arizona/New Mexico cars lately. If I work in the oil sands for six months or so, I can afford to go down there and bring one back. I'm sick of rust.
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