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1st & 2nd Generation (1983–1986 & 1987-1991) Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 1983-1986 & 1987-1991. Topics of discussion range from fuel economy, safety, modifications, performance all involving America's favorite family car, the Toyota Camry.

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Old 11-03-2008, 05:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gen1 goddamn 2se!!!

alrite, ive had it with this pos 2se. i ran outta gas the other day and was able to coast home. the next day i only had some 2 stroke gas layin around so i dumped that in. wouldnt start, wouldnt even spit or sputter. dumpd some new gas in and a bottle of heet, same result. spraying gas into the intake doesnt help either.. i waited a day, pulled out the plugs, cleaned em, and it still wont even spit or anything. one day it runs, next it dont. any help would be greatly appreciated....
ne1 know where the fuel filter is on these things?
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2nd Generation Language?

Maybe Mr. Murphy decided to get you because of the language you use???
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Old 11-04-2008, 07:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Red face mk?

i was unaware of everyone here being christians. im sorry, ill try to clean up my act mr murphy. whoever that may be...
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:23 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Because we tend to speak english on this forum.

Maybe the fact that you put 2 cycle gas in a pump gas car? Don't blame the car for your stupidity.

I suggest replacing the plugs first off, and running gas through the lines. If there is still some 2 cycle gas (with oil mixed in) then it needs to be burned off or drained out. You also should take the battery cables off and wait a few minutes and put them back on to reset the ECU.
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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pump gas or not, it should have at least popped off a few times or something. it doesn't even try to fire, when its got crazy spark. and ive changed the battery out a couple of times, the first one died from cranking forever. id check the fuel filter, but i cant quite locate it, and spraying gas down the intake doesnt even do anything. how could 2 stroke gas hurt anything?

timing and belt are both on.

btw, what language might i have been speaking?
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Old 11-04-2008, 05:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Well, in the 2g Camry, the fuel filter is in the engine compartment, mounted vertically.
Also, you should be able to short out 2 pins on the test connector to make the fuel pump run. Don't recall what connector positions run the fuel pump, but if you do a search on this forum you should find it.
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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all cylinders have compression, like 125 psi. after some reading im just gonna have to check and see if the timing belt jumped. no surprise to me, the 2stroke gas didnt cause my motor to stop running. (stupidity? i think not)
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Old 11-06-2008, 08:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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125 sounds mighty low, check your timing belt marks
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125 is low? i checked the timing and it looks like its off by like 4 or 5 cogs. i gotta get a few more tools and itll be done. is there supposed to be so much slack on the belt?
also, what should the compression be?
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:18 AM   #10 (permalink)
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170psi more or less, there is a spring to pull the tensioner to tighten the belt, put a new one on, tensioner too
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Don't blame the 2se which has nothing to do with your situation. Take better care of your car.
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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well excuse me, mr take better care of your car, im pretty sure you may have ran outta gas maybe once in your lifetime. im obviously not a pro, but i assume that the belt jumped because of this. seems unlikey, hmmm?
i think that some of the cylinders were getting fuel and in turn may have made the crank turn out of sync just a little bit with the cam. since this car has alot of miles and has probably not had the belt changed in a long time, im sure the belt isnt in the best of shape. thats probably the only little bit of negligence i may have shown.
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When you ran out of fuel, the fuel pump may have overheated and failed, or blew the EFI/Ignition fuse, etc.

Try the following to check fuel pump operation:
Fig. 0 Fuel pump check connector

  1. Turn on ignition but do not start engine. Then connect terminals of fuel pump check connector with jumper wire, Fig. 000
  2. Pressure should be felt at cold start injector hose and fuel return noise should be heard from pressure regulator.
  3. If fuel pump does not operate, check EFI and ignition fuses, circuit opening relay, wiring harness and pump.
The engine should still run at 125 PSI in the cylinders, as long as the pressure is consistent in all cylinders. It doesn't make sense that the timing belt would have jumped time just due to running out of gas. However, it's easy enough to check. See below

Checking No. 1 Cylinder To TDC/Compression Of Crankshaft
Aligning Knock Pin (USA)

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well excuse me, mr take better care of your car, im pretty sure you may have ran outta gas maybe once in your lifetime. im obviously not a pro, but i assume that the belt jumped because of this. seems unlikey, hmmm?
i think that some of the cylinders were getting fuel and in turn may have made the crank turn out of sync just a little bit with the cam. since this car has alot of miles and has probably not had the belt changed in a long time, im sure the belt isnt in the best of shape. thats probably the only little bit of negligence i may have shown.
You should have changed the belt earlier then you woudnt be so mad at the engine that YOU failed to take care of.
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