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Old 12-09-2008, 04:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Celica Alltrac (ST185) coilovers installed on Alltrac Camry

Recently, I acquired Tein ST185 Super Street coilovers, and I finally had a chance to install them over the weekend. There were a few things to note:

- Front strut tops are slightly smaller on the Celica. A little bit of time with the dremel fixed that (see picture below, it was a small amount)
- Front brake line mount points were different. Zip ties to the rescue!
- Front brake line mounts interfered with the chassis - a little bending fixed that.

Ride height is pretty much right-on with the factory settings. I'll see how it settles out over the next few days before the alignment. I'm going for a sleeper look, so I might raise the front back up just a bit.

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Brake line mount differences:


Upper mount, after a bit of grinding:


Front fitted:


Initial front ride height:


Rear fitted:


Initial rear ride height:


Keep in mind this only applies to the Alltrac Camry - the rear suspension is totally different on the Alltrac. You may be able to fit FWD Celica parts on a Camry though...

Hope you guys like the pics.

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More Alltrac information is always good
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That's some good food for thought...I might just eyeball the set-up on my Celica (FWD) as compared to my Camry and see if it would work. I honestly hadn't thought of it.
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interesting !!!! at least now i know the fronts fit for sure how different is the rear strut on the alltrac vs the fwd one?




this is sleeper look too !! jk
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The rear struts are much shorter on the Alltrac. I'm not sure if the bolt pattern on the top is different. I'd compare stock struts before committing to buy any aftermarket Celica coilovers...

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Old 12-10-2008, 01:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i would also like to know how much different the rear is. the bottom part looks the same, but like you said charlie, your not sure about the top mount. how much shorter are the rear struts? and if its a three bolt system and still bolts up under the speaker deck, you might be able to just drill new holes if needed. atleast in theory?
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The rear Alltrac rear struts are 3-4 inches shorter than the FWD rear struts. The top is still a fairly standard 3-bolt pattern and could be re-drilled if necessary.

The bottom bolt pattern, spacing and mount width might also be different, along with the brake line brakets (that last part isn't critical).

There is no reason to worry about Alltrac parts compared to FWD parts since there are also coilovers available for the FWD Celicas that might be used instead.

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has anyone tried to use the celica coilovers on the camry setup?
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I confirmed a few years ago that the rear struts for a 4th gen celica would also fit the rear of a gen2, and from what i remember, 5th gen celica struts were compatible with 4th gen celica, so 4th/5th gen should work.

never got a chance to check the fronts, but this makes it sound like it should.
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i'm bad with gens what year celica is 4th gen?
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interesting !!!! at least now i know the fronts fit for sure how different is the rear strut on the alltrac vs the fwd one?




this is sleeper look too !! jk
is this picture real or a photochop?
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i'm bad with gens what year celica is 4th gen?
87-89. Fifth gen is 90-93, Sixth is 94-98 or 99...

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so the st185 is fifth gen then. time for me to start searching for some 5thgen fwd coilover kits.
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megan racing has a kit for the 90-93 celica GTS based on the info in this thread this will work on the gen 2 camry with slight modifications right?


.... I know what I'm working towards all of next year.
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megan racing has a kit for the 90-93 celica GTS based on the info in this thread this will work on the gen 2 camry with slight modifications right?


.... I know what I'm working towards all of next year.
You'll also want to check out D2 and Ksport... which may possibly be all the same thing, just painted different colors...

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