Questions About A Possible Clutch Problem - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

bumpnthump05 · 05-04-2009, 08:24 PM

i was wondering.. im not very knowledgeable about clutch systems. i have a 91 camry with the 5 speed transmission and i recently believe that my clutch pedal doesnt have the feel it used to about a month ago. i dont drive harsh o anything. but it seems that when i press the clutch in it seems as if it doesnt disengage till about 2/3 through the travel of the push.. and seems kinda soft. i have checked my fluid 3 times. making sure i dont have leaks.. but ive been told its possible my clutch is starting to go? but it doesnt slip at all... or is it possible my master cylinder or slave cylinder (one on exterior of transmission) is going? or should i attemp to bleed my clutch system. now i must add that i did have a very heavy rain one day that i did have to drive through a foot or lil more of water very very very slow. i dont know if that has anything to do with it. any advice or tips or answers would be appreciated.

i already looked into my haynes manual and it doesnt really describe my symptoms other than a soft or mushy pedal in my book and thats the closest thing to what its doing.

atobe · 05-04-2009, 08:46 PM

could also be the fork

bumpnthump05 · 05-04-2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by atobe

could also be the fork

The Fork? Um? ** Edit... just looked at the haynes manual.. the release fork... is that possible its bent? or what would i have to do?

chuck_arvin · 05-05-2009, 12:12 AM

I would first bleed the clutch system, but if it doesn't leak, the master and slave cylinders are probably good. There is also an adjustment on the back side of the clutch pedal going into the master cylinder. If the lock nut isn't tightened then it can work loose and cause the clutch pedal to slowly engage/disengage lower and lower on the floor.

bumpnthump05 · 05-05-2009, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chuck_arvin

I would first bleed the clutch system, but if it doesn't leak, the master and slave cylinders are probably good. There is also an adjustment on the back side of the clutch pedal going into the master cylinder. If the lock nut isn't tightened then it can work loose and cause the clutch pedal to slowly engage/disengage lower and lower on the floor.

ooooohhhhhhh wow... ill have to check that out tommorow. cuz that sounds the most plausable.

Jimnist · 05-05-2009, 02:22 AM

Gathered from the above posts:

1) Check pedal freeplay (if locknut was tight or loose)

2) Bleed system - Could be possible that some moisture or is in the lines

Unless you were riding the clutch when going slow, it shouldn't wear that much,or you were doing burnouts and not telling us xD

TBayToyotaBoy · 05-05-2009, 01:46 PM

I second that suggestion about the locknut on the pedal adjuster (it threads onto the end of the piston that moves back and forth in the master cylinder).

Only one other suggestion, but feel free to correct me: if the release bearing is starting to go, it might cause issues. Just a thought.

As for your question "what would I have to do" about the fork: to service any of the following components, the transmission must be unbolted and dropped away from the block: release fork, release bearing, clutch pressure plate, clutch friction plate, engine flywheel.

Hope this helps,

Tim

bumpnthump05 · 05-05-2009, 09:04 PM

how do i get to that adjustment way under the dash or taking the master cylinder out?

TBayToyotaBoy · 05-05-2009, 10:46 PM

It's a pain, I won't lie. Remove the lower trim piece, and kneel outside the car with the door open. If you twist your back painfully and look up under there, you'll be able to see the entire assembly. Check that the lock nut is tight, and tighten if it isn't.

If it is still fastened securely, you can loosen it and adjust the pedal play by turning the piston so that the threads either lengthen or shorten the length of the assembly.

If you're super confused, I can try to take a pic of mine tomorrow after work.

bumpnthump05 · 05-05-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TBayToyotaBoy

It's a pain, I won't lie. Remove the lower trim piece, and kneel outside the car with the door open. If you twist your back painfully and look up under there, you'll be able to see the entire assembly. Check that the lock nut is tight, and tighten if it isn't.

If it is still fastened securely, you can loosen it and adjust the pedal play by turning the piston so that the threads either lengthen or shorten the length of the assembly.

If you're super confused, I can try to take a pic of mine tomorrow after work.

well today i didnt take that trim peice off but i painfully got on my knees and tried to feel up there.. and i felt it i just didnt knw if i had to struggle doin it or if there was an easier way

bumpnthump05 · 05-06-2009, 08:34 PM

well today i realised my transmission slipped just a lil lil bit today..i was going up a medium grade hill over a bridge by a intersection and i shifted from first to second and when it did.. it kinda felt and sounded like an auto shifting but only for a second it did. is that maybe a sign my clutch is goin? cuz my petal doesnt really have any looseness to it which is what a loose adjuster would feel like just lack of pressure?