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Old 07-17-2009, 03:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Overheating temperature?

I finally got around to installing an aftermarket temp gauge since the factory one stopped working properly. Now it tells me the temp like a thermometer and i was wondering, what temperature would be considered overheating? It's gone up to 90-93* celsius and then stopped rising, this was only a 1/2 hr drive in peak hour.
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Old 07-17-2009, 08:13 AM   #2 (permalink)
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195-199 degrees F does not seem to be too high in stop-and-go traffic on a hot day. Mine runs normal at 175-185 (about center on temp gauge). When you go above 95 C, then get a little worried. Does your electric fan come on when you are at 90-93 C? Where in Australia? West is hot? I was in Perth in 1963. Bet it has changed a lot. But it was hot!
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Sydney and it's winter right now, peaking 15* celsius in the middle of the day. AFAIK, no, the fan did not cut in yet. The water temp peaked when i was at the lights and it dropped to 90 as soon as i started moving. In my manual, it says it cuts in >93* cel.
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Could be a bad temp sensor. Unplug the temp sensor(on the thermostat housing) which should run the fans full time, and see if it runs cooler.


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You car will be fine running up to just over 100*C (though that means something is not normal). The thermostat keeps the temp at the inlet of the motor near 80-85*C, but the temp sensors are on the water outlet side.

It sounds like things are just fine. Unless the weather is crazy hot and you are trying to run with the A/C on, you should be fine with one fan. The risk comes when that second one goes bad...

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You car will be fine running up to just over 100*C (though that means something is not normal). The thermostat keeps the temp at the inlet of the motor near 80-85*C, but the temp sensors are on the water outlet side.

It sounds like things are just fine. Unless the weather is crazy hot and you are trying to run with the A/C on, you should be fine with one fan. The risk comes when that second one goes bad...

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not to derail the thread, but charlie, how many of those sensors are on your coolant outlet goosneck? i got one for the cold start injector timer, another for the temp sensor i guess, and a sending unit for the gauge, but there's another that is mounted differently (horizontally) instead of vertically like the others. i'm trying to see if there's a diff between my jdm and urs.
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You car will be fine running up to just over 100*C (though that means something is not normal). The thermostat keeps the temp at the inlet of the motor near 80-85*C, but the temp sensors are on the water outlet side.

It sounds like things are just fine. Unless the weather is crazy hot and you are trying to run with the A/C on, you should be fine with one fan. The risk comes when that second one goes bad...

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Thanks Charlie, just the answer i was looking for
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not to derail the thread, but charlie, how many of those sensors are on your coolant outlet goosneck? i got one for the cold start injector timer, another for the temp sensor i guess, and a sending unit for the gauge, but there's another that is mounted differently (horizontally) instead of vertically like the others. i'm trying to see if there's a diff between my jdm and urs.
There are a few various options, depending on year and options, etc. for North American 4-cyl Camrys...

I don't remember all of mine off the top of my head, or even what color they are.

If you have one more than you can account for, it is probably for the A/C water temp relay switch... (only Alltracs have that here, but maybe that's something that goes along with the auto A/C?)

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You car will be fine running up to just over 100*C (though that means something is not normal). The thermostat keeps the temp at the inlet of the motor near 80-85*C, but the temp sensors are on the water outlet side.
So is that 100*C inlet or outlet? I've currently got the sensor after the outlet in the top rad hose. If it's inlet, do you know the rough figure for outlet?
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Once again, sorry to derail, but can operating the a/c at idle in traffic without the a/c fan working cause the engine to overheat? My boss's car is experiencing this, however, when she's moving or driving freely it stops and the a/c blows cool.
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So is that 100*C inlet or outlet? I've currently got the sensor after the outlet in the top rad hose. If it's inlet, do you know the rough figure for outlet?
Outlet.
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Once again, sorry to derail, but can operating the a/c at idle in traffic without the a/c fan working cause the engine to overheat? My boss's car is experiencing this, however, when she's moving or driving freely it stops and the a/c blows cool.
There are two fans, one labeled "A/C" and one labeled "Main" - but they both are on either half (in series) or full (parallel) on when they are in use. I would have to look at the diagrams again, but I think that if one is busted, the other stops? The car still shouldn't overheat since the one fan will turn on if the water temp gets to high, but in hot temps with the A/C on, it might.

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