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Old 11-14-2009, 02:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ignition Coil Resistance: what is the truth? I need to know before I install!!

I have decided to bite the bullet and replace the coil in my '88 Camry (3S-FE) since nothing else has eradicated my problems listed on another thread (Trouble in Paradice). I'm just a little confused on, first a conflict in specs that I have seen, and actual readings with a VOM.

Toyota factory manuals say to measure between the + and the - (primary side) and replace the coil if you see anything other than .38-.46 ohms. Autozones test manuals say something like 1.3-1.5 ohms. Now, the questionalble coil on my car measures .7 or.8 ohms. When I was at the Zone the new coil that I now own measured about 1.5 ohms. They didn't have another one to look at.

The secondary specs I honestly did not compare, but both coils fell within that range. On my other thread Dr J said that resistance isn't that important, or not as important as insulation. I can see what he means as evidently these Toyotas are notorious for coils giving trouble, especially in wet weather. The constant heating and cooling of the plastic eventually develops cracks in the case leading to arching and reduction in secondary output. Sometimes I can't believe the stupidity in engineering that comes from manufacturers of otherwise fine products. I have a 95 Nissan Truck that seems to never need attention and I always noticed that the igniiter and the coil are externally mounted from the engine. I wish I could buy an aftermarket setup like that on my Nissan. Pretty smart engineering I think.

If anyone has any expertice on these coils please chime in. This could be a definitive and valuable thread for others with coil issues, which I feel will be plenty...
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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...here is my data.............................................. ....................
stock original 91 coil...primary 0.4-0.5ohm...secondary 8.39kohm
TRUTECH VF40 coil.....primary 1.20ohm.......secondary 10.46kohm
..i was puzzled by the differance and didnt use the TRUTECH,,I BOUGHT a ACDELCO but didnt get a chance to spec its output,,,i'll try to get around to it...the original coil did have a crack in its housing like others have mentioned.
,,,,measured using a FLUKE 77.

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Old 11-16-2009, 02:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Measuring low resistance is quite difficult with normal multi-meters. Differences in contact resistance can lead to very different readings.

I would just replace with a factory coil - the first one lasted 20 years, right?

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Well, I'm starting to realize that you can overthink some of this stuff and drive yourself crazy. I'm sure anyone with any kind of atutomotive or electronics training would understand why I would be concerned in regards to the coil. There it all is in black and white when your doing what any good repairman would do and use your troubleshooting data. Most of the data plainly states to replace a coil with the kind of readings I mentioned. Logically thinking, you wouldn't want to replace one bad part with another. My knowledge of electronics led me to the conclusion that different manufacturers are going to build replacement parts with slightly different electronic values. In the case of a simple coil, a matter of 10ths of an ohm probably would have no detectable difference in performance.

So, I installed the Duralast coil and so far so good. The MOST refreshing part of my battle with this intemittent problem was actually finding a BAD part. Everyone probably knows what I mean. You have an intermittent performance problem, or sometimes just a problem, and you start doing the logical stuff like changing or inspecting fuel filters, spark plugs, wires, ect.., but you never really see anything that is BROKEN. But it felt great to unbolt that coil and see that burnt brown spot where voltage had been jumping for what looks like a long time to me. I took out a jewelers loupe and looked up close and there was a whole network of cracks. I can't believe this was not causing problems until lately. The car was driven by my grandmother less than 300 miles a year for the past 10 or 12 years, so perhaps this intermittent problem just never happened in her very few and very short trips. When I drove it here (VA) from upstate PA, it rained cats and dogs and the engine never missed a beat.

So, hopefuly the old Camry will be once again as dependable as it has been since my family bought it. I do want to warn anyone who may view this thread due to similar problems with their car that besides variations in the electronic values of aftermarket parts, there is also flat out WRONG troubleshooting data out there that may cost you hundreds of dollars. Specifically I am talking about airflow meter resistance values given for older 3S-FE engines. The books call for 3-7K ohms across pins THA and E2. I have measured two used, but known to work units, and one rebuilt unit, and they all fall between the 200-400 ohm range that is the spec listed for a 2VZ-FE. I almost fell for it myself until an old friend loaned me the one on his car to try out. I wonder how many people have paid through the nose based on this misprint and STILL had performance issues because the meter was never the trouble.

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