3SFE Turbo Project Questions

[91 Camry]

Before you start giving me a hard time about what i want to do, hear me out. I'm not trying to make it into a race car here, but a low boost set up, 7-9psi to make the car a bit quicker.

Now i saw that JDMCamry is doing this with an MR2 manifold and turbo. Salvage yard pickings are slim in my area so i went to ebay. i found a 3SFE turbo manifold and even a 3SFE turbo kit that puts out 8psi. Here are the links:

Manifold Only
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyot...item518e6e1394

Full Kit
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyot...item3ca75377bb

*Now, I'm thinking of either:
1- still looking for an MR2 manifold and turbo from a yard
2- Buying the manifold and finding a turbo to fit it
3- buying the kit

Please take the time to look at the links and give me your input about what option i should go with.
My Camry is a 2.0L 3SFE w/ Automatic Tranny
Thank you for your time

[91 Camry]

anybody?

[DM89]

How many miles are on your trans? adding horsepower may break something on a worn out transmission. I don't know much about turbos so i can't help you out with your questions

[white90dx]

Ouch. I wouldn't trust any of those parts...

The pictures of the kit don't match a 3s-fe motor, the turbo is one of those cheap chinese ones that will just blow up shortly, there are a bunch of parts missing from the kit (oil lines, water lines, etc.) and a bunch of things you don't need (fan?!?).

There would still be a lot of fabrication to get it to work. I also don't see how the turbo could fit on the manifold in the correct orentation and still fit the wastegate on there...

Its all bad news.

You should be able to find a used stock MR2/Alltrac turbo, manifold and water/oil lines on the various forums, pick up a cheap eBay downpipe and be well on your way to a good kit.

-Charlie

[91 Camry]

thanks a lot charlie! i was waiting for you to see the post lol

well to start, the car has 68K original miles.

but yeah, i tihnk the MR2 turbo set up would be better on the wallet too.

Question: What are the oil feed and water lines and where do they go?

Another Question: If i can find one at the junk yard with the top mount still intact, should i grab that as well? because i dont think front mounts will work on the old cam.

If Possible, please please list all of the stuff i would have to pull off an MR2/Alltrac Motor!


Thanks for All The Help Everyone!

[white90dx]

I pretty much already named everything...

- Turbo manifold
- Turbo
- Oil lines
- Oil pan
- Heat shield

You will have to cut the end off the oil feed line and weld/braze on a fitting so you can T off the oil pressure sender port on the 3s-fe. You can see how this is done by searching for 5s-fe turbo write-ups. For the water lines to/from the turbo, you can use the stock water lines that originally went to the throttle body (just get longer hoses and attach them).

The stock intercoolers for the MR2 and Celica Alltrac pretty much suck. Avoid using them if at all possible. You really should have an intercooler on there though, somehow... that challenge is up to you to figure out.

There are also lots of other little bits you will find out you need along the way - these are different for every custom turbo kit, so just have some money saved up for 'extras'.

You will have significant trouble finding anything at a junkyard for these. There were very few of them, and they don't end up at junk yards (people buy them back and part them out if they wreck or whatever).

-Charlie

[91 Camry]

i was thinking of buying a brand name 3SGTE Header, then looking for a c26 turbo from the mr2 or celica as well as lines. wouldnt hurt to have the extra flow of a header...then as far as intercooler goes, the only thing that really came to mind was squeezing in a top mount and doing a subbie style scoop like on an STi.
and then add an STi Wing!......that was a joke.never.
As far as heat shield goes, i can make one of them as well.

Could the stock oil pan be used if a fitting is put onto it to connect a line?
What do the water lines do with the throttle body and with a turbo later down the rd?

[white90dx]

Don't use a 3s-gte header. Use the factory manifold. The headers crack, suck and put a bunch of heat out into the engine bay. Many people have made well over 400hp at the wheels with the factory 3s-gte manifold...

If your oil pan is in good shape, its fine to put a fitting on it. The factory Celica Alltrac oil pan is pretty cheap though...

From the factory, the coolant lines to the throttle body keep it from having condensation and freezing in cold weather. You can generally bypass the lines without any trouble (I have had this done on all my cars for many years with no troubles, even with all the ski trips).

The factory CT-26 turbo (and any other water-cooled turbo) need coolant to keep the turbo working properly. Without the coolant, it will overheat, coke the oil and stop working.

You can fit a front mount with clever pipe routing next to the radiator (cut some holes). Otherwise, you can move the battery and use that space maybe with an air-water intercooler...

-Charlie

[stanno]

Originally Posted by white90dx

You can fit a front mount with clever pipe routing next to the radiator (cut some holes). Otherwise, you can move the battery and use that space maybe with an air-water intercooler...

-Charlie

or or or.... ditch intercoolers all together and go water injection

[white90dx]

Originally Posted by stanno

or or or.... ditch intercoolers all together and go water injection

Water injection should be in addition to proper intercooling, not instead of proper intercooling...

-Charlie

[stanno]

Well noted...tho in this case where the level of boost is low... and an intercooler is optional... a water injection kit would still help fend off detonation... cool intake air mixture and lower cylinder temperatures during combustion... right..?

[white90dx]

Originally Posted by stanno

Well noted...tho in this case where the level of boost is low... and an intercooler is optional... a water injection kit would still help fend off detonation... cool intake air mixture and lower cylinder temperatures during combustion... right..?

Yes, it still helps.

[91 Camry]

wow thanks a lot everyone! and yeahh when i said header, i meant the stock manifold, my bad

[JdmCamry]

Good Luck on your project Looks like a good army of 2nd gen camrys whipping ass on this forum, and yes white90dx is right Ebay may have alot of shiny nicely polished car parts on there but all glisters are not gold I guess lol the downpipe fits swell but a custom exhaust system is foreshadowed. Have you ttried the craigslist in your area, If i find any stock manifolds or a ct26 turbo I will let you know