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Old 09-13-2010, 09:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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97 Camry Start then stall

97 Camry 4cyl, 230,000 miles, New fuel pump (and sock) and fuel filter.

This problem started suddenly (I was sitting waiting for a train with the car in neutral, it stalled and has not started since)

Car cranks over and acts like it trying to start (picks up revs a little) but then stalls immediately. when I let go of the key.

I installed a new fuel pump and sock, and also replaced the Fuel filter. Still no good.

Obviously I'm interested in any ideas.

ALSO - When I turn the key on, I do NOT hear the fuel pump running. However, if I bump the starter, I then hear the pump run for about 2 seconds after I release the key. IS THIS NORMAL (The part about not hearing the pump run when the key is first turned on)

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Old 09-13-2010, 04:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The pump must run when :starter is operating with ignition on (engine cranking0 engine is running)
jump B+ and Fp terminals in side the diagnostic connector box,(to apply power directly to the pump); if engine runs after that, check the connector on air flow meter and ground wire connector under driverside headlight.
You can find more detailed info if you search my posts about fuel pump testing.
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OK, Got it running so I thought I'd let you know what I found.

As I said, the car has 230,000 miles on it, and just quit, no warning, nothing. (The car would do a slight miss on acceleration). I figured with this many miles, I'd start by replacing the fuel pump (another story) and the fuel filter (Another Big story), regardless, these were original and were probably over due, neither of these solved the problem.

The car would try and start, but then stall out.

I finally got a code reader and found code P1310 set. Curious, this says cylinder #3 is misfiring. When I researched this code more, I found that, when this code is set, the computer turns off the fuel pump. That's why the car was acting like it was starting, then stall out.

To troubleshoot, I swapped the plug wires and connectors for the other coil (1 and 4). I got the same symptom, car would try and start then stall. I checked the code, and this time it was P1300, Cyl #1 misfire. GREAT, The problem was following the coil pack.

I purchased a new coil pack and installed it, The car started, but ran very very bad. HHMMM, I may have switched wires 2 and 3 on the pack when I installed it, so, I swapped the two plug wires.

This time, the car came to life and ran nice and smooth. (The coils are NOT waste spark, each coil on the pack (2 coils on each pack) must go to their correct plug.

OK we're almost there. The car ran great, but there was that original little bit of a hesitation when It was first started or during acceleration.

I bought four new plugs and wires. The plugs I pulled out looked clean, but worn. The gap had worn to almost 0.070 and was probably misfiring a little.

Anyway, the new plugs and wires cured the last little problem.

The car now has about 300 miles on the new plugs, wires, Coil pack, fuel filter and pump. No hesitation, no miss, very smooth idle.

Hopefully, I'll get another 230,000 miles out of this car.

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