3sge turbo

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hey guys i have finally completed my turbo application to my gen3 3sge in my gen2 camry. i have not turn on any boost yet.if i drive the car like this will it harm the turbo or the engine i have on ext wastegate

[91 Camry]

put up lots of pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[white90dx]

Hopefully you have a boost gauge... if so, keep it below "0" boost and you will be fine. If you go much above that, and the ECU will probably cut out power. (the MAP sensor you have on there is probably meant for naturally aspirated operation and can't read boost correctly).

Oh, and the link should be:
http://s1112.photobucket.com/albums/...10117-2243.jpg

What are your plans for tuning?

-Charlie

[seng]

if you drive the car normally, keeping it under 3000rpm, you're ok. you can drive the car normally and the car won't generate any boost.

[gt prominient]

here are two pics before and after if i get these right i will try to upload the balance to photo bucket

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Originally Posted by seng

if you drive the car normally, keeping it under 3000rpm, you're ok. you can drive the car normally and the car won't generate any boost.

thanks i will try to do that

[gt prominient]

Originally Posted by white90dx

Hopefully you have a boost gauge... if so, keep it below "0" boost and you will be fine. If you go much above that, and the ECU will probably cut out power. (the MAP sensor you have on there is probably meant for naturally aspirated operation and can't read boost correctly).

Oh, and the link should be:
http://s1112.photobucket.com/albums/...10117-2243.jpg

What are your plans for tuning?

-Charlie

thanks charlie i am still trying to figure whats the best but inexpensive route does anyone know what size injectors come in the gen 3 3sge.i would like to start by adding 4-5 lbs boost pressure and see how air/ fuel gauge responds i also have a boost gauge. next question my o2 sensor has 4 wire and is installed under the car i connect my a/f from the computer does that gives me a accurate reading or should i installed another o2 on the down pipe

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more pics http://s1112.photobucket.com/albums/...0pics%20turbo/

[white90dx]

Originally Posted by gt prominient

thanks charlie i am still trying to figure whats the best but inexpensive route does anyone know what size injectors come in the gen 3 3sge.i would like to start by adding 4-5 lbs boost pressure and see how air/ fuel gauge responds i also have a boost gauge. next question my o2 sensor has 4 wire and is installed under the car i connect my a/f from the computer does that gives me a accurate reading or should i installed another o2 on the down pipe

Inexpensive and best don't go together.

That said, you can try searching the web for the info (search for your injector color, motor, etc. and see if anything comes up). Otherwise, send out your injectors for a clean and flow test - that will tell you for sure.

At that point, you can pick up new, larger injectors of the right size and a 2-bar map sensor (from a 1st/2nd gen 3s-gte) and tune things with an e-manage or similar. It won't be perfect, but it should work with low boost just fine.

Make sure you are always running the highest octane fuel you can get.

-Charlie

PS. Get a better welder.

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thanks charlie. 90 octane is the hightest pump gas in ja.if i buy a emanage do i have to get the map 4 it.
come on charlie whats wrong with my welding i think it wasnt bad 4 beginners.
i am looking the vacumn diagram for the gen 3 3sge thanks in advance

[white90dx]

Originally Posted by gt prominient

thanks charlie. 90 octane is the hightest pump gas in ja.if i buy a emanage do i have to get the map 4 it.
come on charlie whats wrong with my welding i think it wasnt bad 4 beginners.
i am looking the vacumn diagram for the gen 3 3sge thanks in advance

Don't worry too much about the specific octane rating - they probalby use a different system there. In the US, we use (R+M)/2. You can look up the difference between "Researce" and "Motor" octane numbers to see what's up with that.

If you get an e-manage, you will just have to find a tuner to map it. There won't be any off the shelf maps - but it is just a piggy-back, so you can install it and drive it to the tuner (or get a wide-band O2 and tune it yourself!).

Look up what the 5s-fe turbo guys do for injectors. They have the same issue, though they probably start with smaller injectors from the factory. What you will need to do is find similar ratio of injector size increase. I think they normally go from the stock 210cc to 330cc or 360cc injectors - but you will have to do the research on that yourself. Once you have the right injectors on there, you can start the tuning. Keep in mind that if you pull out fuel, it will advance the timing at the same time because of how piggybacks fool the ECU.

There shouldn't be much to the vacuum diagram. There will be a couple things for ACIS (or whatever its called on your 3s-ge), power steering idle-up (maybe), A/C idle-up (maybe) and idle control.

-Charlie

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thanks charlie.the problem is i dont think the vacumn for the boost gauage is the right one iused the one that control the acis and it seems like it cuts out after a while secondly i think i am loosing vacumn some where i removed the hose from the throttle body cover it completly with my hand and surprisinly the car throttled,shoudnt stiffle and shut off

[white90dx]

Originally Posted by gt prominient

thanks charlie.the problem is i dont think the vacumn for the boost gauage is the right one iused the one that control the acis and it seems like it cuts out after a while secondly i think i am loosing vacumn some where i removed the hose from the throttle body cover it completly with my hand and surprisinly the car throttled,shoudnt stiffle and shut off

What do you mean by cuts out? There may be a one-way valve you didn't see that keeps vacuum ready to operate the ACIS valve.

As for second part... what do you mean by throttled? Look for a hose that goes to the bottom of the throttle body. It has been a while since I have seen your particular 3s-ge model in person, so I don't remember how the idle air controller is setup. On my 3s-gte, there is actually a separate hose that goes to the bottom of the throttle body that needs to go to the intake or a separate small filter.

Ideally, you can find a shop with a smoke machine and you can quickly and easily find any vacuum/boost leaks...

-Charlie

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yes charlie i checked it is that same one under the throttle body that controls the idle air valve i think it is not working because the engine revs at a high rpm and it has a loud suction sound block it off and the car throttles two low and the ac doesnt stepup when turned on

[white90dx]

Originally Posted by gt prominient

yes charlie i checked it is that same one under the throttle body that controls the idle air valve i think it is not working because the engine revs at a high rpm and it has a loud suction sound block it off and the car throttles two low and the ac doesnt stepup when turned on

.... you gotta be more clear about what 'it' is. Make sure it actually references a specific thing in your text, not something in your head (I don't read minds).

Did the A/C idle up work before you added the turbo?

What are you blocking off that stops the revving?

-Charlie