2SE distributor going bad? - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums


» Auto Insurance
» Featured Product
» Wheel & Tire Center

Go Back   Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums > Toyota Passenger and Sports Car Forums > Camry and Solara Forum > 1st & 2nd Generation (1983–1986 & 1987-1991)

1st & 2nd Generation (1983–1986 & 1987-1991) Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 1983-1986 & 1987-1991. Topics of discussion range from fuel economy, safety, modifications, performance all involving America's favorite family car, the Toyota Camry.

ToyotaNation.com is the premier Toyota Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-19-2011, 03:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
New TN User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Denver
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View md303's Photo Gallery
2SE distributor going bad?

Hi, I have a 1984 Camry DLX with the 2SELC engine. Over time, I have had to re-adjust my ignition timing several times to keep it in spec, and I don't understand why. As of now, the distributor is clocked CCW as far as it will go, and while the timing is correct again, I fear it will go out of spec again.

Anyone know what can cause this? I am at a loss, it's not like the distributor is a very complicated device...

Thanks!
md303 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-19-2011, 11:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
One with the force
 
71Corolla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,836
Gameroom cash: $548250
Thanks: 122
Thanked 182 Times in 169 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View 71Corolla's Photo Gallery
Your distributor uses weights and a vacuum advance, is this right? It's possible the springs inside the distributor are becoming weak.
__________________
2000 Lexus ES300 Millenium Edition 1MZ-FE 64,000 Km
1993 Camry V6 LE 3VZ-FE 164,000 Km SOLD but still in the family
1990 Camry LE 2VZ-FE 202,000 Km
1987 Camry LE 3S-FE 435,000 Km
1971 Corolla 2-door Coupe 2T-C 260,000 miles
71Corolla is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2011, 12:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
New TN User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Denver
Posts: 7
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View md303's Photo Gallery
Yes, it uses weights and vacuum advance. So what do the weights/springs actually do? Retard timing as engine RPM increases, while vacuum advances it?
md303 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2011, 09:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
Official TN Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Fort Lee, NJ
Posts: 100
Thanks: 1
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View nopain00's Photo Gallery
Not quite. Both advance the timing.

Basically the weights are held in by the springs, but at fast engine speeds, centrifugal force spins them outward, which turn the top of the distributor in such a way to advance timing. Vacuum advance is to advance timing additionally, especially at partially open throttle positions. In those cases, the engine pulls a large vacuum, resulting in only a small amount of air and fuel, which would not burn efficiently if it were only for the centrifugal weights. Thus, based on engine load (i.e. the vacuum), the distributor is advanced to allow for ideal combustion.

Now back to your original question. Are you saying that your timing keeps advancing, and you need to keep turning the distributor to retard it, or is it the other way around.

You should be checking timing at idle, without any advance. If the springs are weak, they would advance too early and you would get the problem you are describing. If the weights are stuck, you wouldn't see a problem at idle, but you would have a lot less power at WOT.

Another possibility is that your timing belt is off. If it's off a tooth, then it's possible that your distributor would be off, but it would be constantly off by the same amount. You wouldn't get it constantly changing the way you are describing.

Take a look at the weights and springs. I don't know whether you can get those parts separately for your car. You can try swapping the cap for another one to see whether it's any better, or getting a new one all together.
nopain00 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2011, 05:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
TN Post Wh*re
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Wheeling, Illinois
Posts: 5,192
Gameroom cash: $303055
Thanks: 1
Thanked 127 Times in 121 Posts
iTrader Score: 0 reviews
View Mike Gerber's Photo Gallery
One other thing that can go wrong with these distributors is the bearing inside the distributor shaft itself can wear out. This is easy to check. Remove the distributor cap and grsab hold of the rotor and try to rotate it side to side. There should be virtually no side to side rotation. If there is, the bearings are worn and the distributor needs to be replaced.

Mike
Mike Gerber is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums > Toyota Passenger and Sports Car Forums > Camry and Solara Forum > 1st & 2nd Generation (1983–1986 & 1987-1991)

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:57 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
ToyotaNation.com is an independent Toyota/Lexus enthusiast website. ToyotaNation.com is not sponsored by or in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc. The Toyota, Lexus and Scion names and logos are trademarks owned by Toyota Motor Sales, USA, Inc.