1st & 2nd Generation (1983–1986 & 1987-1991)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 1983-1986 & 1987-1991.
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i know performance and the 2vz-fe don't really go hand and hand...but i was thinking cams could help it out alot (besides intake/head and exhaust work). i havent found anyone that manufactures perfomance cams for this engine, so i would have to go custom. one question...how much would it affect the day to day driveability of this car? i wanted to go all out and get street/race cams, was thinking about drag but...no, im good yeah sure, i'm in cali and it wouldnt pass smog for shit, but i dont care. how would cams decrease drivability at all? could someone educate me on this? im new to suped up cars, so im trying to get on the right track here. any tips? oh yes...price range for custom cams? btw...i'm planning to keep this N/A.
cams, basically you will not find cams for your engines off the shelf. you will need to go custom. hence you will need to find a shop that will either re-grind your cams or make up a new set for you. once you have done this then go a head and install the cams. what size cams you run will be important too. if you decide to upgrade to say 264, then you may be fine with stock ecu (i know this is the case with 4AGE's) but if you go higher, say 272 or 288 then a stand alone would be desireable. but this also has its problems as you will generally need to adjust the exhaust cam a bit, this is usually done with an adjustable cam gear, however with the 3sfe, and 2vzfe running single cam with and internal scissor gear, you will have great difficulty getting the cams tuned properly. its possible but it will mean that you need to adjust the cams at the scissor gear and it might get a little to complicated.
They would affect it a ton.
Find the guy that put custom cams on his 3vz-fe in a mr2. He gained 15-20 peak horsepower, but lost all the grunt the stock 3vz has. probably drives like a bat out of hell on an mr2.
But that could have been done with the same cost with headwork, and tweaking while keeping the rest of the powerband.
Price range? $1000-$1200. You loose all the low and some of the mid-range for top end power.
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^ i'm with you, some good head work (port, polish, valve job, valves, valve springs etc) will yield better results for what its worth. keep in mind if your car is a daily and not track specific, going high cams will just be annoying.
^ i'm with you, some good head work (port, polish, valve job, valves, valve springs etc) will yield better results for what its worth. keep in mind if your car is a daily and not track specific, going high cams will just be annoying.
i'm pretty new to this performance car stuff...what exactly does a valve job do?
and...yeah, from what you guys are saying i'll just stick to the regular head work...i like the grunt in my gen2 and the low end especially for some reason. only because it's slow enough as it is, hahaha. i was thinking of getting one of those port and polish kits i saw at a diy website. you just need a dremel or air-tool and you get all the different bits and such. the guy who wrote the faq on it said it's best to practice first on a junk head. any opinions on this?
For that stuff, no, you don't need to practice. I know, I did it.
A dremel doesn't cut/grind quickly enough to need practice. However, an air grinder will!
A valve job cleans all the carbon off the valve, and grinds flat sides on the back of it to seal against the head. They also grind the same flat patterns into the head so that it seals tightly.
You can see the angle in my valves if you look carefully. A three angle is better, some people say a 5 angle is best, but a lot of people say it's not better, if not worse than a 3 angle in many applications.
Here's my valves. I just cleaned them, lightly sanded them, and polished them on my drill press. Worked well.
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did u do a three angle cut too (60,45,30) ? or just polish them up?
if you are worried about doing your headwork, get a head from the wreckers, if you can get another 2vzfe head then you're in luck. else find another aluminium head and practice on that. that way you will get to understand the basic properties of aluminium heads and know how much material comes off etc.
i'd also reccommend you to research polish and porting so that you know what to do and its benefits etc. basics concept is to increase the air flow.
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performance cams for a gen2 v6?
yeah sure, i'm in cali and it wouldnt pass smog for shit, but i dont care. how would cams decrease drivability at all? could someone educate me on this? im new to suped up cars, so im trying to get on the right track here. any tips? oh yes...price range for custom cams? btw...i'm planning to keep this N/A.
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