1st & 2nd Generation (1983–1986 & 1987-1991)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 1983-1986 & 1987-1991.
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it has a 2se, its an s block with a 2 valve per cyl with efi, it is a 2 liter but the bore and stroke are not the same as the 3s motors, if i remember right you can bolt a 3s up to your trans, thank god you have a 5 speed, you can get a stronger one with a better motor, but whatever motor you get you are going to need the engine wiring harness and computer, try to get a 3s motor with a g head, you already have a lightweight car, it should fly with about 150hp
I do believe that they came with the 1S-C and 2S-C aswell, and also a diesel turbo engine.
Yep, but I never saw one in real life.
My 85 was a 2SE and it was fuel injected. Very good car.
Biggest problems were:
(1) the flexible exhaust pipe breaking
(2) the intake and exhaust manifolds both on the rear of the engine and sharing bolts. The exhaust manifold would get so hot it would deform.
(3) the front suspension control arm only had one pivot bushing, the extra thick sway bar kept it from being pushed rearward.
(4) the cruise control wasn't that good, the car would kick down out of overdrive, but wouldn't return to overdrive.
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85 LE 2SE 500K km - died trying to push a semi off the road
95 LE 5SFE 530K km, 530K km changed engine, 549K km second engine died, now 554K Km running with a 98 5SFE block and head
01 XLE V6 310K km
I believe that was a mechanical fuel injection system. The Camrys (and just about every other car today) have electronic fuel injection. It's much more precise and also much more reliable. The Chevy mechanical fuel injection came out in 1957 on the small block V8 and was a mechanic's nightmare. Today they are worth a fortune to restorers, but mostly to make the car rare and period correct. They still don't run that well.
Honestly, you have a MINT 85 motor... I mean, if I were in your position, I would keep it clean as possible and keep a CLASSIC. Get yourself a honda or an acura or a different Toyota (read: newer) to mod up.
kuqumi,
Do what CamryPunk suggested. This 2SELC engine will run just about forever, if properly taken care of. My wife and I had an 86 DX 5 speed and we put 173,000 miles on that car before donating it to a local charity. My wife did most of the driving on that car and when we donated it, it still had the original clutch! Along with what others have mentioned, eventually you will have to replace the clutch master cylinder and the clutch slave cylinder. Bleeding in fresh brake fluid every 2 years or 30,000 miles should help the clutch hydraulic system last longer. You will love this engine for it's durability and reliability. We currently have 2 other Camrys, but if I could buy that 86 again today, brand new, with that 2SELC engine, I would do it in a heartbeat. Keep it!
I'm definitely taking CAMRYPUNK's advice! Thanks for all the advice, everyone.
Next question... when I go around turns, the car starts sliding really easily. I can take a 30mph rated turn and if I'm going 45, I start to slide. This is a turn the family minivan can take. The tires aren't bald; in fact they look quite good. Could this be caused by underinflation? (They are at 30PSI but should be at 35; I'm fixing that later today) Or is this a suspension thing?
I believe that was a mechanical fuel injection system. The Camrys (and just about every other car today) have electronic fuel injection. It's much more precise and also much more reliable. The Chevy mechanical fuel injection came out in 1957 on the small block V8 and was a mechanic's nightmare. Today they are worth a fortune to restorers, but mostly to make the car rare and period correct. They still don't run that well.
Mike
Yup. Chevy didn't make a decent TPI till the late 80's/early 90's, the Crossfire blew. All 3 Chev motors I've built for my self have been dbl-pumper Demon fed
...I was only countering bluefusion's quote of, "in 1985?? wow... toyota is on top of their game... the generals 4 Tech engines were still carb'd"
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Originally Posted by Mike Gerber
...will run just about forever, if properly taken care of. My wife and I had an 86 DX 5 speed and we put 173,000 miles...
mine made it to +331xxx mi. They really will last forever.
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Yup. Chevy didn't make a decent TPI till the late 80's/early 90's, the Crossfire blew. All 3 Chev motors I've built for my self have been dbl-pumper Demon fed
...I was only countering bluefusion's quote of, "in 1985?? wow... toyota is on top of their game... the generals 4 Tech engines were still carb'd".
Yeah but Toyota still ahd that damned Carb'd Tercel until the early 90's didn't they. Around that time, mid 80's, the only thing that was FI from Toyota was the Cressida, Camry, and optional on the Truck wasn't it. Htey were still in the game of making cheap cars to drive, and carbs were much cheaper around that time.
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PLEASE DO NOT GET RID OF THE OLD TN AS WE KNOW IT.
no, my father had an 84 LE. It had EFI. and power everything w/ two tone paint.
haha, i thought soem of the other V6 5spds on here were desi, i mean hell, i bet over half the board is desi, there's a pretty damn good chance one of them has a V6 5spd
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