gen 3 V6 SE vs. Celica Alltrac turbo - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

wontonjohnny · 02-13-2003, 01:20 AM

what do you guys think??

just posting this for fun ....was driving beside one today ...sounded not bad

Talisman · 02-13-2003, 01:48 AM

about even. From a stop celica will win because of launch but the all-tracs are heavy.

SE V6 · 02-13-2003, 02:23 AM

No comparison! From a standstill, you'd get ROASTED! If the person can drive an AWD car, don't even bother trying. If your Cam is standard, you could have a try but only on the go otherwise, forget it. If the All Trac is modified, get used to seeing the tail lights.

***Eye8Pussies*** · 02-13-2003, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Talisman18

about even. From a stop celica will win because of launch but the all-tracs are heavy.

I'd go with what he said....on the go, 'bout even....off the line....you'll be behind...

wontonjohnny · 02-13-2003, 12:26 PM

really... i dunno.... a celi might have the all trac but a camry has the flat and greater torque curve which is awsome for launching..

assuming both cars are stock it would be damn close it think.

***Ratko*** · 02-13-2003, 12:29 PM

torque without traction is useless.

***EKam*** · 02-13-2003, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SE V6

No comparison!

What he said.

***Eye8Pussies*** · 02-13-2003, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratko

torque without traction is useless.

what he said too - need lsd, need good wheels, etc etc

Nick · 02-14-2003, 11:16 AM

and i big weight difference

i really want one of those...

***BLUEMEANIE*** · 02-14-2003, 12:56 PM

I had a 90 alltrac turbo. There'd be no contest. Weight transfer off the line would kill the Camry. To 90-100mph or so the Celica would have an edge with its gearing but 5th in the Celi is like 4th in the Cam. Past that the Cam could mantain a higher speed where as the Celi would be screamin for a 6th gear.
My Vette's the same way. A blast to 180mph is no prob in 4th but cruzin in 4th is at 70 and I can hold steady at 100-110 barely at redline

wontonjohnny · 02-14-2003, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldman

and i big weight difference

i really want one of those...

not true... suprisingly they pretty much weigh the same

wontonjohnny · 02-14-2003, 02:35 PM

yo i checked out the time for these cars and there really close
found here
http://www.car-stats.com/stats/default.aspx

and on that sc3 site someone posted 15.3 with a 3vzfe 5speed which is faster then the all trac on the url above.

Talisman · 02-15-2003, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by wontonjohnny

yo i checked out the time for these cars and there really close
found here
http://www.car-stats.com/stats/default.aspx

and on that sc3 site someone posted 15.3 with a 3vzfe 5speed which is faster then the all trac on the url above.

Yup, Like I said. People assume the all-trac is fast but in reality it's just adequate(lot more potential though). 0 to 60 times are very close for both cars. The AWD will give it the edge on the launch but then the Camry will start to catch up and at the top of 2nd gear they should be about even. Camry might even pul on it if racing on the freeway.