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Old 07-22-2006, 10:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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3rd Generation How to flush R12

Any ideas?

I am in US this weekend. Can anyone tell me where to get it done in the cheapest way?
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dealer. the reason is because they need to catch teh R12 released by the system. its harmful to the ozone and releasing it comes with a hefty fine. if you dont care, just depress the valve and let er' rip. otherwise, take it to a shop that is licenced in the removal and handling of R12
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there's no way to flush it yourself...

you can release what you have as much as possible, but the only way to "flush" the system is by using a machine

as well, everytime you touch the freon and the a/c system, the oil in it should be replaced, or at least more oil should be added to keep your compressor in good running condition
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Anyone with any bettter idea?

I think my options should be much more in US then in Canada.

Infact all the R134 kits are quite cheaper then Cnada. I nee someone to tell me the best workshop where I can get it done.
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Anyone with any bettter idea?

I think my options should be much more in US then in Canada.

Infact all the R134 kits are quite cheaper then Cnada. I nee someone to tell me the best workshop where I can get it done.
Now wouldn't a lot of that depend on where you are going into the U.S? East Coast.Midwest,WestCoast?

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I am in Maryland now. Well, I would pass through pensylvania and Newyork in my way back.

I am in Hagerstown MD.

I hope that helps.
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You can still find R12 on eBay, or use the R12 substitute, rather then converting. R12 is for more efficient for cooling believe it or not, and far less prone to leaks.
I still have the original R12 in my '88 Camry, and it cools the car better then my buddy's '05
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Old 07-26-2006, 05:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Any ideas?

I am in US this weekend. Can anyone tell me where to get it done in the cheapest way?
Do it yourself back home. http://glacier-gold-refrigerants.com/
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Man

That is way too expensive..
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That is way too expensive..
Not bad when considering DIY refrigerants are banned in Canada. Not simple like dropping into PEP Boys for a can or 2 or 134a.

The site says 12 cans for $110. which is the going rate for a DIY refill can at PEP Boys on sale.. One needs to call the company and get a price ala cart on leak seal, refrigerant and gauge/fittings.

The important thing is that it ships from Ontario so no need to smuggle the stuff across the border. Its a simple process to fill a working system.

I didn't see any R12 replacements at Pep Boys.

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Why do I need 12 cans for?

I guess 1 or 2 should be enough. I seen cans of R134 for $6 in any walmart in US, and like $13 for retrofit kit and same for pump. Infact my brother was telling me, back in times, R12 used to be available for 99 cents a can.
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Search the web for substitutes for R-12, there you will find substances like propane and butane - not that I am suggesting it - but it does work....

Also Freon when burned in a fire creates some very toxic gas.... and the odds of actaully igniting the propane is pretty low if you think about - then again we all have bad days - just tell the next owner or bleed it off before you sell it....
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I took my 82 Celica to a Firestone shop and they evacuated my R12 system for free.
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Now that sounds cool
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Why do I need 12 cans for?

I guess 1 or 2 should be enough. I seen cans of R134 for $6 in any walmart in US, and like $13 for retrofit kit and same for pump. Infact my brother was telling me, back in times, R12 used to be available for 99 cents a can.
Do a better job at reading. The company isn't saying you need to buy by the case. They mention a refill kit. Flushing R12 in order to add 134 is fraught with problems. But in your case go ahead and see what happens.
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