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Old 08-13-2006, 06:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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4th Generation My shock absorber job (pics intensive)

My '00 camry 2.2L with 100,000km was making suspension noises. I thought it was the sway bar bushings acting up again, but regreasing them didnt help. I also greased the shocks piston rods, it seemed to work at first but the noises came back soon after. I did a bounce test and the shocks still seem to work great, but I decided to change them anyway. Before I went out to buy the parts, I decided to dismantle the shocks first to see what parts I needed to buy, so I took apart the right rear and right front first.

To access the rear shock, you need to remove the rear bench seat and then the side back seat to expose the 3 nuts holding the rear shock. You can wiggle a 12mm wrench into the tight space to remove the nuts, so removing the speaker tray is not necessary. I also managed to wiggle a 19mm socket wrench to loosen the center bolt a little bit too.


Here's a pic of the rear right shock removed. Tip here is to loosen the nut side of the bolt holding the shock to the hub (you need long breaker bar bcos it's torqued to ~150ft-lbs). Loosening the bolt side is nearly impossible. And accessing the nut is impossible if you dont remove the rear caliper out of the way first (something which the service manual did not mention).


Here are pics of the front right shock dismantled:



After examining all the worn out parts:


I decided to replace all 4 shocks, lower insulator rubber, bump stops, rubber boots, stabilizer links and sway bar bushings. Total cost S$1,094 !!!


Here's a pic of my car up on jack stands:


Here's a pic of a rear and front bump stop. Very fragile looking pieces of hard foam I might say. Maybe only good for 3 or 4 bottoming out, before they get damaged and begin disintergrating. (Note to self: Go slow over those speed humps in future!)



And here's a pic of my professional workbench, which is an old vice wedged between a drain gutter! Lucky that spring compressor tool only cost me S$65.


Here's a pic of reassembling a new shock:


And finally a pic of a newly reinstalled shock assembly with new rubber boot, new bump stop, new lower insulator rubber, new stabilizer link and new sway bar bushing. The feeling is so good! Heaven!


And of course the test drive was excellent, it was like driving a new car all over again. The suspension felt alot firmer. The old shocks although still usable but the you can tell they are worn bcos when you push the shock piston rod down by hand, it was slow to respring back up. The new shock was smoother and respring rate was much faster. Another thing I noticed is that the right rear shock was the most worn, followed by the right front shock. Probably bcos mine is RHD camry. Also interesting to note is that the original toyota shock I bought had the marking KYB on it. So Im guessing if you want to save some money, buy the shock direct from KYB instead, hopefully the stabilizer link mount, ABS sensor mount and brake line mount are the same.
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Great write-up. I just replaced the rear strut assemblies in my wife's 98 Camry about a month ago. 2 things I would like to add here.

First, I used the Monroe Quick Strut assemblies; it's a 1 piece strut, spring and strut mount assembly, all in one. No need to hassle with compressing the spring and removing parts. I had a clunk coming from the right rear and wasn't sure what was actually making the noise, so I wanted to replace everything in a shot gun approach. My struts were pretty worn anyway the rear was really bouncing. It was just a remove and install process for me. I paid $170 American, each side, for the rears. I don't know if you have Monroe parts available there, but you may want to check, just in case you ever have to do this job again.

Second, you don't have to actually remove the back seat cushion. You can just stand outside the car and push the seat inward and it moves enough to expose that 12MM bolt that holds the side bolster in on each side. One hand to push inward and one hand to remove the bolt. A friend who was an ex-Toyota tech show me that trick.

I used an impact to remove the 2 large bolts and nuts holding the struts in at the bottom. My manual says they are tightened to 180 foot lbs. I didn't want to work that hard using a breaker bar to break them loose.

Just like you experienced, the car now rides and handles like new. Better yet, no more clunk.

Once again, great write-up with great pictures. I wish I had a digital camera to document what I did.

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Old 08-13-2006, 08:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Very nice job, I'm sure all the work was worth. Must ride sweet now. I love the front bumper on your car.
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KYB makes struts for toyota.

Toyota just repackage it

If you want stiffer stuts, KYB-GR2

good write up.
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Very nice photos!!!
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Shoot...nice pics! Bookmarked.
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very nice write up...nice
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Doh

Too bad you don't live in the states. I'm selling my OEM struts and springs from my 99 Camry V6 that were removed with less than 12,000 miles on them. I'm only asking $200, too bad. Great job with the write up though.
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ken, how long did it took for you to change all 4 sides?
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To Mike Gerber............



Now THAT sounds like what I've been waiting for!!! I *HATE* that we've evolved from true shocks........(1 bolt top, 1 bolt bottom)........to struts! (Ick!!) Struts are such a PITA & define so much of the freakin' car's suspension yet they're sooooo much more involved than shocks.

Anyway.........(end rant).........Lovin' the idea of easy "shock-like" disassembly & mounting of these "One-Shot" assemblies you're talking about!!


Was curious as to how the Monroes measured up to stock! I've always loved the smooth, quiet ride of the camry & even a little bit of the "float", but I think we can all agree that the stock ride is just a wee bit too soft & probably should've been stiffened up about 10% from stock originally.

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Keithy, took my 2 days with lots of breaks inbetween. It was back breaking work and Im still recovering from my body aching all over!
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hahahaha............ I have guessed so. I believe sometime ago I read someone did it(all 4) in like 4 hours, no breaks. when I did the front of mine(I tried installing springs), it took me forever. At least, I am not alone. hehehe...........

anyways, good work posting instruction and pics. You can be the official 'Chilton manual' in TN!

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Keithy, took my 2 days with lots of breaks inbetween. It was back breaking work and Im still recovering from my body aching all over!
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Now I have a guide to do my tokico's and eibach springs!!
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To Mike Gerber............



Now THAT sounds like what I've been waiting for!!! I *HATE* that we've evolved from true shocks........(1 bolt top, 1 bolt bottom)........to struts! (Ick!!) Struts are such a PITA & define so much of the freakin' car's suspension yet they're sooooo much more involved than shocks.

Anyway.........(end rant).........Lovin' the idea of easy "shock-like" disassembly & mounting of these "One-Shot" assemblies you're talking about!!


Was curious as to how the Monroes measured up to stock! I've always loved the smooth, quiet ride of the camry & even a little bit of the "float", but I think we can all agree that the stock ride is just a wee bit too soft & probably should've been stiffened up about 10% from stock originally.

TIA!

redgtxdi,

I think they rode stiffer than the OEM struts, as most aftermarkets are stiffer.

Unfortunately, I will never know how they would have held up long term. My wife and I were rear ended Sunday in our 98 XLE, waiting in line at a stoplight, by a 1996 full size Dodge Ram van going about 50 MPH, and pushed in to a pickup truck in front of us. The rear end collasped almost to the back window. The back window blew apart spraying glass all over. The backs of the fronts seats folded backwards from the force of our bodies hitting them. When we were pushed in to the pickup truck, the front was crushed in and the air bags deployed. The car is totaled. I'm just happy my wife and I were able to walk away from the wreck. We are both bruised up quite a bit and went to the emergency room. We both see our own doctors tomorrow and Friday. My wife is just sick about her beloved Camry. She was just saying how wonderful her car now rides with the clunk in the rear gone. That car looked and ran like it was still brand new. I had taken unbelievable care of that car since it was new. We will really miss that car. We will both be OK, so I have to keep telling myself that. That Camry gave up it's life to save us. It did it's job.

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Sorry to hear about your accident Mike, glad you guys are okay.
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