3rd & 4th Generation (1992–1996 & 1997–2001)Toyota Camry Discussion for years: 1992-1996 & 1997-2001
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Took the car to Toyota today, they seem to think that it's the whole water pump scenario.
It'll be going in for the water pump, timing belt and thermostat and cylinder pressure testing next week. It's gonna be around £330 plus an hour for the cylinder testing so it's not as bad as I was expecting. It'll probably work out around the £400 mark overall which is about $750.
I'll keep people updated, but they seemed to think that what people are saying is right as it's never run into the red yet on the gauge.
Worked carried out: timing belt, water pump, thermostat, the consumables (guessing bolts etc...) and the necessary amount of coolant after a change.
The car's still making the whining noise, still sounds like it's coming from the same area. I'm going back to speak to Toyota in the morning when they open, but I need further advice if anyone has any ideas.
Appreciate the earlier advice so hoping someone will be able to help again!!
So is it still overheating? If the overheat problem has ben cured, then the wining noise could also be a tensioner pully in the timing belt area. Toyota should have picked this up though, let us know what they say the noise is.
If they charge you to pull it apart again, dont pay em. You took it in to have the overheat and whining noise repaired, buy the sounds of it, they have fixed the overheating.
If your car is no longer overheating, then its not your radiator. Where is your temp guage level when the car is warm?
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listen my man, don`t look anywhere else, change your radiator, that`s your problem ,this will stop your overheating problem>>
You're possibly right, it might come to that, but the work they've done was supposed to stop the noise and the overheating which at the minute's not happened. Symptoms are still the same.
What they did: timing belt, water pump, thermostat and coolant.
The really annoying bit is the service manager said we'll order those parts in as we can always send them back if it's not the issue. They had my mobile number to call me if it was anything else so they could get my ok to go ahead with the work. No call.
It's not my first camry v6 and I'm familiar with the noises of this one before the problems started. Arrrgh, so frustrating.
I took a couple of 3gp movies, so people can listen to the sound. One just focuses on where it appears to be coming from. The other pans from one side to the other, you hear the noise lessening a little as you move away from the side where the water pump is. At least you see the fan spinning on the radiator anyway.
They're now talking about drive belts....seemingly the technician thought there was a little play, and the service manager then thought there was possibly some issue with the timing belt tensioner causing the noise.
It's going back on Monday.....thing is since they've done the work(might just be a coincidence) if it's been sitting cold for a while, it'll make some kind of gurgling noise on startup and when you accelerate, it's then fine throughout the day.
As someone said earlier in the thread, gonna ask them to have a good look at the radiator etc..
hmmmm. im beggining to think that the noise and overheating is unrelated.
Heating i believe could possibly be a blocked up radiator. I just had my radiator pulled out and cleaned it was half blocked. the car runs cooler now. was only $100 aud. You would be surprised at how much junk builds up in a radiator! The noise definatley is something toyota should fix for nothing (except parts) as they never fixed it in the first place!
i havnt been able to watch the vids, error with the server? anyhow, timing belt tensioner sounds likley. alot of people have it replaced with the timing belt as its a cheap part and worth doing.
Keep us updated on what toyota said, oh and no one upstairs hates you, its simply cars being cars.
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Saw a friend last night who knows quite a bit about cars. Loosened the altenator and took the drive belts off, started the car without going into gear and no noise....I think he said it's the tensioner that controls the A/C - there's no A/C working in the car, and turning on the a/c doesn't lock up the tensioner. seems to grind a little when free spinning it by hand.
Personally, I would have thought that this is something that toyota would have picked up...going to drop hints about them checking the tensioners when they're doing the drive belt, give it a bit of hand spinning, that way they'll hear it as well and know exactly which one it is.
The heating issue seems to be gradually getting better, I was on a 50mile drive tonight and it only rose above half when I was stationary in traffic or a car park. So I guess when they flushed the radiator for the coolant it's obviously helped a bit, still not perfect atm.
Got a friend that I can go see, think he'll volunteer to do the radiator for me it needs done. See what happens on Monday though.
Edit: I think my friend also said something about the clutch for the a/c or something??? No idea and it's 2:20am....time for bed.
....I think he said it's the tensioner that controls the A/C - there's no A/C working in the car, and turning on the a/c doesn't lock up the tensioner. seems to grind a little when free spinning it by hand.
So maybe you've found the source of the whining noise - a/c pulley bearings. As you probably know the pulley freewheels all the time, except when the air is on. when you turn on the air the electric power locks the pulley and turns the compressor.
If you don't need a/c you could just change the pulley and leave the compressor alone. If the a/c compressor is seized up and won't turn, you'd want to unhook the electrical connector from it so no one can turn on the air - because the belt will snap. If the a/c has its own belt on your engine you could just remove the belt. But if the belt runs something else too, you would of course have to leave the belt on.
THis happened to me, it was the Coolant temperature sensor. It could be the thermostat, too. Mine died and the engine light went on. Took it to the shop and they replaced the engine temp sensor. It is the sensor that goes to the engine on the right side below the distributor for my 5SFE engine. Good luck. Paid $160 for it, not bad, considering my car died on the highway.
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