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After researching for quite a bit and not having any luck... I am posting this... Well, I kinda found a couple of threads, but didn't quite find what i was looking for...
so, here it goes...
I have a 98 camry v6 5spd... am new to all this performance stuff.. and I already have a Weapon R SRI (I know it's not THE best out there..!) I actually noticed a little power gain at first... but all that was just a psychological effect I think... or i mite have gained some but all that went down the drain after I resetted the battery... It was a little worse than my stock Intake...
What I want to know is that what else can I do to my car to increase HP and have better performance? I have already done the tuneup...
I can spend between US$300-500... What would you guys suggest me to do in this budget?
for the intake, put you're stock box back on, and you will definately see just how much that intake really did help. i started doubting my home made one, so i did that and it amazed me once again.
for more power, and for around you're spending limit, go ahead and get yourself a Apex SAFC. keep the intake on, and cut the muffler off/ unbolt it if you want(nomatter what anyone says, it really isnt that loud, sounds good like a cross between a WRx and a supra) and because there is less backpressure, you get top end out of it. how much is yet to be seen over stock, because im poor and have no money for a dyno. it doesnt really hurt down low whatsoever, i still have the launch on everyone ive raced. i cant tell you how it truely is through seccond gear, because mine is worn out(when i first got car 2 years ago my buddy showed me how to engine brake with it, so at around 45 i always put it in 2nd and thought it was the coolest thing in the world) but id do something to the stock muffler, whether you put a tip on it, or just cut it off(my bolts were rusted so i cut it, and hung it to that tie bar thing with the holes in it with a un-bent clothes hanger, kept stock muffler in place so it looks like nothing is different), get some cold air going to that intake(weapon R makes a ram air kit i believe), and then play around with the SAFC some, see what works out well and what doesnt. i have yet to get money for a SAFC because im saving up for a 5-speed tranny, and that whole swap, so i cant help you out with that one. i know 94coupev6 has one, maybe he can help you. after all these upgrades i think you should be happy with the performance, up until you decide to start boosting. good luck, and have fun with it.
I wouldnt buy that ebay "supercharger" or put it on my car if i got it for free.
There isnt too much you can do for camry's for speed performance, exhaust might help a little, or a turbo which is a lot more.
Maybe do more of handling mods? Or appearance mods?
I don't want to do anything for appearance! I have had alotta civics and other cars running around and revving their engines at the lights not knowing what a v6 5spd camry is capable of! If i do any of the appearance mods, I won't get to see their faces go cuz then they'd know that there's something under the hood!
for the intake, put you're stock box back on, and you will definately see just how much that intake really did help. i started doubting my home made one, so i did that and it amazed me once again.
for more power, and for around you're spending limit, go ahead and get yourself a Apex SAFC. keep the intake on, and cut the muffler off/ unbolt it if you want(nomatter what anyone says, it really isnt that loud, sounds good like a cross between a WRx and a supra) and because there is less backpressure, you get top end out of it. how much is yet to be seen over stock, because im poor and have no money for a dyno. it doesnt really hurt down low whatsoever, i still have the launch on everyone ive raced. i cant tell you how it truely is through seccond gear, because mine is worn out(when i first got car 2 years ago my buddy showed me how to engine brake with it, so at around 45 i always put it in 2nd and thought it was the coolest thing in the world) but id do something to the stock muffler, whether you put a tip on it, or just cut it off(my bolts were rusted so i cut it, and hung it to that tie bar thing with the holes in it with a un-bent clothes hanger, kept stock muffler in place so it looks like nothing is different), get some cold air going to that intake(weapon R makes a ram air kit i believe), and then play around with the SAFC some, see what works out well and what doesnt. i have yet to get money for a SAFC because im saving up for a 5-speed tranny, and that whole swap, so i cant help you out with that one. i know 94coupev6 has one, maybe he can help you. after all these upgrades i think you should be happy with the performance, up until you decide to start boosting. good luck, and have fun with it.
Umm, I don't want the car to be any louder cuz it is loud as it is because of the intake! I know the car has potential but having a sound that a supra or a WRX has, that woudn't go too well, because those cars CAN back it up too! my camry is not close to the performance they deliver!
What good would the Ram air kit do and how does it work? Also the AFC, how does it work and how would it have an affect on the performance?
Nice buy, I would love to have a 5speed in my Camry. V6 has some great power from 3,000 rpm's to 5,000 rpm's. If you look at the engine specs, you'll notice the V6 produces more torque than horsepower. The best thing to do for a little better top end is a free flowing exhaust. I promise you, with the V6 they sound absolutely AMAZING. Stonegrave couldn't have said it any better, it sounds like a WRX/Supra and I get a lot of comments about it. It's not loud just driving normal, but when you start punchin the throttle it gets nice and loud. Other than that...Suspension is always the best upgrade in my opinion. I'm riding on H&R springs and Tokico HP struts and it goes from a grocery getter to a performance car. Since you have a 5 speed, you could always get a short shifter and/or performance clutch. Also, if you have money to afford a dyno tune, an SAFC will squeez some power out of your engine. Hope this helped.
What the ram air kit does, is you put the plastic cover around the filter to seal it up. the cover has an inlet, and it comes with a 3" hose. you route the hose to whereever you want it, whether it be behind the top part of the grill, behind ur headlight, in the bottom of the bumper, wherever, and there is a vacuum looking fitting on the end. you bolt the fitting to where you want it to stay(id put it in the top grill, because then air always gets to it, either that or behind the headlight, so then when it rains u dont gotta worry about it sucking in water, and when you really need performance you take the headlight out) what it does, is say you put it in the grill. while you drive, the vacuum looking plastic piece will take in air passing through the grill(cold, forced in air) and route it through the hose, directly to the filter, and into the intake manifold. forced in air, and colder air = more horsepower. dont worry, its not forced in nearly anywhere near what a turbo could do, or anything providing real boost. the SAFC has a bunch of dials on it(ive never personally used it yet, but ive been referred to it by a bunch of my buddies who use it on their WRxs and other decent cars) that change different things. it has - and + dials on it, that you can change the things(not sure what they are, probably like air/fuel ratio and things like that) and see what they do. if its bad, dont do it again, if its good, keep it there, you know? i know i sound like an idiot, but i truely have no experience with it, id have to see it to know. im pretty much just taking people's words for it, which is ignorant, but thats what us poor people have to live off of most of the time. what do you mean the intake is loud enough? i mean, mines woke my neighbors up a couple times here and there, but only when i hit like 5 grand going down the main road by my house, but other than that no complaints. the exhaust really isnt that loud. in car it is, because mine doesnt clear the back bumper so it hits the ground, and echos it up to the car. i think it sounds good, and ive beaten a couple WRxs before(they were horse crap drivers, but either way the mexicans are still scared to race me lol) and a 14.7 sec 1st gen RX-7 only beats me by 3 cars(keep in mind my tranny isnt what it used to be) so just imagine what you'res could do with a 5 speed! less weight in the front, AND more stock power to wheels because the drivetrain loss is alot lower on a manual than auto.
Last edited by Stonegrave; 09-29-2006 at 09:35 PM.
What the ram air kit does, is you put the plastic cover around the filter to seal it up. the cover has an inlet, and it comes with a 3" hose. you route the hose to whereever you want it, whether it be behind the top part of the grill, behind ur headlight, in the bottom of the bumper, wherever, and there is a vacuum looking fitting on the end. you bolt the fitting to where you want it to stay(id put it in the top grill, because then air always gets to it, either that or behind the headlight, so then when it rains u dont gotta worry about it sucking in water, and when you really need performance you take the headlight out) what it does, is say you put it in the grill. while you drive, the vacuum looking plastic piece will take in air passing through the grill(cold, forced in air) and route it through the hose, directly to the filter, and into the intake manifold. forced in air, and colder air = more horsepower. dont worry, its not forced in nearly anywhere near what a turbo could do, or anything providing real boost. the SAFC has a bunch of dials on it(ive never personally used it yet, but ive been referred to it by a bunch of my buddies who use it on their WRxs and other decent cars) that change different things. it has - and + dials on it, that you can change the things(not sure what they are, probably like air/fuel ratio and things like that) and see what they do. if its bad, dont do it again, if its good, keep it there, you know? i know i sound like an idiot, but i truely have no experience with it, id have to see it to know. im pretty much just taking people's words for it, which is ignorant, but thats what us poor people have to live off of most of the time. what do you mean the intake is loud enough? i mean, mines woke my neighbors up a couple times here and there, but only when i hit like 5 grand going down the main road by my house, but other than that no complaints. the exhaust really isnt that loud. in car it is, because mine doesnt clear the back bumper so it hits the ground, and echos it up to the car. i think it sounds good, and ive beaten a couple WRxs before(they were horse crap drivers, but either way the mexicans are still scared to race me lol) and a 14.7 sec 1st gen RX-7 only beats me by 3 cars(keep in mind my tranny isnt what it used to be) so just imagine what you'res could do with a 5 speed! less weight in the front, AND more stock power to wheels because the drivetrain loss is alot lower on a manual than auto.
What i meant by exhaust being louder was that IF AND WHEN i get tempted by kids on the road in their civics,mazda3s and some in integras (YES I SAID INTEGRAs!) I don't want it to be louder than what it is cuz that DOES evoke cops into our direction! But I still love the sound of it! so, if the car is idling, is it gonna make noise? or does it just make noise like the intake when I floor it?
So, you think the best bet for me would be to get the Ram Air kit? will it really make a big difference? What about grounding wires and stuff? Also, with the exhaust, i'm not too sure what you're implying... I should cut off the exhaust pipe/tip coming out of the muffler or the whole muffler and leave the tail pipe in? what if I just get a muffler... would that make a differnce in performance supported by the ram air kit? (after I get it!)
Also, what about the ECU upgrade... have you seen anybody do it?
Here is the link to the ECU... a STUPID question... would I be able to drive my car without that?! cuz they want me to send it so they can do some upgrades on it and they'll overnight it back to me...
Nice buy, I would love to have a 5speed in my Camry. V6 has some great power from 3,000 rpm's to 5,000 rpm's. If you look at the engine specs, you'll notice the V6 produces more torque than horsepower. The best thing to do for a little better top end is a free flowing exhaust. I promise you, with the V6 they sound absolutely AMAZING. Stonegrave couldn't have said it any better, it sounds like a WRX/Supra and I get a lot of comments about it. It's not loud just driving normal, but when you start punchin the throttle it gets nice and loud. Other than that...Suspension is always the best upgrade in my opinion. I'm riding on H&R springs and Tokico HP struts and it goes from a grocery getter to a performance car. Since you have a 5 speed, you could always get a short shifter and/or performance clutch. Also, if you have money to afford a dyno tune, an SAFC will squeez some power out of your engine. Hope this helped.
Thanks! yeah, the car is really capable of doing ALOT! I have raced an 04 honda accord v6 six speed and the dude (my brother) driving the accord was amazed that camry had such potential! (HE IS A GREAT DRIVER!) we did a 0-100 mph roll and he was 2 1/2 car length or maybe 3 at the most from me at that time!
no you cant drive without it. it controls everything your engine does. it tells the fuel injectors when to squirt, sparkplugs when to fire, ect ect. im not saying go and cut your exhaust off, you can go ahead and have someone weld on a aftermarket straight through design muffler and feel the difference. i personally like the sound of no muffler over an aftermarket one, but thats me. yes, with no muffler/an aftermarket one it will make a noise when you turn the car on, at idle, and it only gets louder as push the accelarator more. with just a muffler upgrade you wont make enough noise to really attract the cops in your direction. with my ram air in, and out, there is a night and day difference. only mine is ghetto, and that weapon R one is godly compared to mine, if it would fit my filter id buy it as soon as i got the money. think about it...the faster you drive, the harder the air will go into you're intake, making more and more power and you go faster and faster. grounding wires are cool, i havnt tried them yet but if you do them right i know they help, because the engine makes kinetic energy when it runs, and by grounding it, it frees up the extra energy laying around that would normally get in the way of the sensor's electrical flow and such. i gtg for tonight though, ill be back on tomorrow at like 7-8 PM ish.
that's what I thought that the car can't be driven without it! But they had written something like I have to send the ECU to them and they'll overnight it...
Go to an exhaust shop and have them cut out your cat and give you a nice new y pipe, the factory y pipe kills our v6s, you should notice some nice gain from that alone and it shouldnt cost more than $100. Make sure they put on a nice y though, both pipes should face backward and it should have a nice join, dont let them throw it together.
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1992 Camry XLE v6: p&p + 3angle, CAI, y pipe, K-Sport coilovers, 5-speed swap
1996 Eagle Talon TSI AWD: IPT 3700 restall, DSMlink v3, HKS exhaust, ETS street fmic kit
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HELP! Performance upgrade for a v6...
cuz then they'd know that there's something under the hood!
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